[PD] Version 0.40-0test05 on XP

[Miller Puckette]

Well, what I need is a simple patch that crashes reliably on XP, preferably
with Pd 0.40-1.  (I think test5 had another crash bug that I tracked down
only after several days...)

cheers
Miller
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 03:34:10AM +0200, Steffen Leve Poulsen wrote:
> 
> hi,
> Pd version 0.40-0test05  on XP
> no externals just a lot of abstrations.
> I have some crash, if you need help debugging.
> What are you looking for?
> 
> nb  It's not difficult to fry XP with cpu intensive stuff.
> mvh/  Steffen
> 
> At 01:29 15-10-2006, you wrote:
> 
> >Well, I managed to crash 0.40-0 once on XP, although I can't replicate
> >the problem... my plan is to make a patch that automatically opens and
> >closes patches adn other files repeatedly to see if that can engender
> >crashes.  It's been pretty tough to debug things like that on XP (the last
> >such problem went away when I used the debugger).   However, 0.39 ended
> >up getting updated twice before it was exactly right (0.39-2) and perhaps
> >the same will end up happening with 0.40...
> >
> >cheers
> >Miller
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 12:58:22PM -0500, David Powers wrote:
> >> First, let me say that I have got some things running really stable -
> >> ie. generative MIDI output, and Gem, once I upgraded to the
> >> experimental version, and modified some things in my patches, to get
> >> around limitations of that version.
> >>
> >> However, my biggest problem with PD is still that things crash all the
> >> time, but nobody ever can say why, and I'm not sure if things are
> >> improving. Particularly, when working with digital audio, there seem
> >> to be some problems, as well as in the opening and closing, and
> >> modifying of files, generally. I'm not sure if this is a WinXP issue,
> >> or what - but I'm having such problems even with "core" PD, no
> >> externals added, just modifying Miller's example patches. The
> >> frustrating thing is, others don't seem to be able to replicate it,
> >> and sometimes even I can't replicate the error.
> >>
> >> But still - unstable is unstable, and for a live performance or
> >> installation, that's a BIG problem. What am I to do if PD crashes in
> >> the middle of a 45 minutes piece with live musicians???
> >>
> >> The end result is that I may be forced to use commercial software like
> >> Reaktor, when it would be nice to use something open source, and where
> >> I would be ready to share the results of my patches with the PD
> >> community.
> >>
> >> ~David
> >>
> >> On 10/14/06, Adrian <nordbaer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >I'm sorry for this more like OT, it's just my thought about improving
> >> >PD and it's externals in another way.
> >> >
> >> >I'm struggling ...
> >> >
> >> >PD is one of the best tools for making people
> >> >learn/experiment/perform/interact digital/electronic art at it's best.
> >> >But where are the people that are PD's target. I'm trying to suggest
> >> >that PD should try to follow a Popper-alike way of developing. Make it
> >> >easy accessable for the people and use their input. Except if PD and
> >> >it's externals are purely egoistic developments, which i don't think
> >> >is the case ;)
> >>
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