[PD] and it's PR/Marketing, or those

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Fri Oct 20 06:28:04 CEST 2006

The problem there is a lack of people willing to put time into  
working on the Windows build.  A lot of these bugs are often  
relatively easy to fix once they are isolated.  Isolating them is  
usually the hard part and can be like 90% of the work with many bugs.

Bugs will be much more likely to be fixed if they are reported in the  
bug tracker with a patch that can reliably demonstrate the bug.  Even  
more bugs would be fixed if people submitted patches that fix them.


On Oct 14, 2006, at 1:58 PM, David Powers wrote:

> First, let me say that I have got some things running really stable -
> ie. generative MIDI output, and Gem, once I upgraded to the
> experimental version, and modified some things in my patches, to get
> around limitations of that version.
> However, my biggest problem with PD is still that things crash all the
> time, but nobody ever can say why, and I'm not sure if things are
> improving. Particularly, when working with digital audio, there seem
> to be some problems, as well as in the opening and closing, and
> modifying of files, generally. I'm not sure if this is a WinXP issue,
> or what - but I'm having such problems even with "core" PD, no
> externals added, just modifying Miller's example patches. The
> frustrating thing is, others don't seem to be able to replicate it,
> and sometimes even I can't replicate the error.
> But still - unstable is unstable, and for a live performance or
> installation, that's a BIG problem. What am I to do if PD crashes in
> the middle of a 45 minutes piece with live musicians???
> The end result is that I may be forced to use commercial software like
> Reaktor, when it would be nice to use something open source, and where
> I would be ready to share the results of my patches with the PD
> community.
> ~David
> On 10/14/06, Adrian <nordbaer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm sorry for this more like OT, it's just my thought about improving
>> PD and it's externals in another way.
>> I'm struggling ...
>> PD is one of the best tools for making people
>> learn/experiment/perform/interact digital/electronic art at it's  
>> best.
>> But where are the people that are PD's target. I'm trying to suggest
>> that PD should try to follow a Popper-alike way of developing.  
>> Make it
>> easy accessable for the people and use their input. Except if PD and
>> it's externals are purely egoistic developments, which i don't think
>> is the case ;)
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