[PD] PluggoPd using Jack? (was [ot?] pd and ableton via jack)

Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip at gmail.com
Sun Mar 25 20:10:53 CEST 2007

I'm on 10.4.9 and have finally gotten a decent result for sending and
recieving audio through Jack between Live and Pd. There is an
excellent tutorial on this:

I found that using the Audio Unit version of the Jack Insert is much
more stable than the VST one.

But, this kind of routing is a bit time-consuming, especially when
also synching up with Midi Patchbay as well. I'm hoping that the
upcoming Summer of Code will spearhead a PluggoPd that does this in a
much more streamlined fashion.

I just had an idea this week that a good route (for OSX only, sorry)
would be to look under the hood of the Jack Audio Unit (and VST too)
and the JackPilot for tips. Maybe an ambitious rewrite of the
JackPilot which uses Pd for routing could be created (there is talk
about how the Jack routing tables are a bit confusing, and Pd might be
the perfect language to express them).

If Pd could do routing in Jack, then maybe we could have a piece of
the PluggoPd puzzle?


On 3/24/07, Derek Holzer <derek at umatic.nl> wrote:
> What's the combined CPU usage of all three together?
> The RAM usage?
> Loading lots of samples in Live or PD?
> I've noticed that running PD with Live has a high graphical overhead on
> OSX. PD's GUI isn't very optimized on OSX and Ableton is simply bloated.
> You might try changing the way you view your samples in Live...get rid
> of the waveform viewer, which uses a lot of graphics resources as well.
> I recall now that I had this problem early on with my set that used
> both, and that's how I dealt with it.
> Last, my OSX has been 10.4 for a while now. Maybe JackOSX is better
> integrated with 10.4?
> best,
> d.
> Myo wrote:
> > hello list,
> >
> > I apologize if this is too off topic, but I figured there would be
> > many people in this same situation here that could help.
> >
> > I'm trying to route audio from pd and ableton live via jack on mac os
> > x 10.3.9. pd is 0.38.4-extended, ableton is 5.2, and jack is 0.74.
> > interface is presonus firebox.
> >
> > I get everything running ok, but still get pops and clicks. changing
> > the buffer size, number of physical i/o, number of virtual i/o,
> > closing background processes, all have no effect. both live and pd
> > function normally without jack, so I know it has something to do with
> > the interactions of the 3 programs.
> >
> > any suggestions are very welcome.
> >
> > thanks alot
> > cory
> >
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