[PD] counter + list of objects

[Derek Holzer]

Hi all,

Damian Stewart wrote:

> 1) download Pd
> 2) download awesome super rad pre-made patch
> 3) open awesome super rad pre-made patch and scratch heads when it doesn't 
> work because they don't have particular externals

My point precisely. Or, as someone told me their Dutch media-arts 
instructor said, "Using PD is like living in Communist Russia" [compared 
to Max/MSP, I presume]. To which I might append "Using only *vanilla* PD 
is like living in Communist Russia." PD-Extended was conceived as a way 
to have things "just work"[tm], especially for people who are brand-new 
to PD or to programming in general. Why go fooling with that out of some 
purist notions about core PD objects vs "tainted" externals? And why ask 
them to grapple with such arcane concepts as "namespaces" when the 
external objects can simply just be there, and they can get busy playing?

best,
d.

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