[PD] product placements with pd

marius schebella marius.schebella at gmail.com
Thu Aug 21 18:44:13 CEST 2008

Mike McGonagle wrote:
> I once thought that, "Hey, if I take a two-by-four that is long enough 
> to cover all the keys on a piano, and slam it down on all the keys at 
> one time, that I would thus create every other piece ever written, or 
> that will be written"... I have since grown up...
> I don't think any court would allow you to even consider this 
> possibility, as there is an issue of context. A single sample by itself, 
> has absolutely no relationship to another sample, and as such, would 
> make each of these 65536 "piece" NON-unique. I think this would be like 
> trying to create a piece with a single sound that is continuous, but 
> never changes. Something, in my opinion, has to be unique to the piece 
> to be able to claim copyright.

but that is exactly what the record industry is neglecting: that taking 
samples and putting them together for a new piece is really creating 
something new. they think they can own a series of samples as property 
and if you include that into a piece you have to pay them money.

there is no rule or limit for the length, the whole copyright system is 
based on vague assumptions, rather based on intimidation than on legal 

> Now, if you wanted to create a sample file with TWO samples in it, you 
> would need to create 65536 * 65536 sound files... That would be 
> 4,294,967,296 sound files. And if played end to end in a single pass, it 
> would last about 55 hours... I don't think I would mind missing that 
> concert.
> Mike
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:39 PM, marius schebella 
> <marius.schebella at gmail.com <mailto:marius.schebella at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     pit klong wrote:
>      >> http://www.kreidler-net.de/productplacements-e.html
>      >
>      > qewl. he could give us his patch and we'd make the same.. ;)
>      >
>     in theory there are only 65536 different possibilites for amplitudes of
>     one sample, so if you register 65536 pieces of music, each 1 sample
>     long, then you you should be able to claim copyright from everyone who's
>     music is based on amplitudes. maybe you can also register one sample of
>     0, then you could even make money from people who don't make music.
>     just imagine: you can claim copyright for every sample of every piece of
>     music.
>     marius.
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