[PD] product placements with pd

Andy Farnell padawan12 at obiwannabe.co.uk
Thu Aug 21 19:25:32 CEST 2008



You're conflating logic with human laws. They share nothing.


On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:44:13 -0400
marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike McGonagle wrote:
> > I once thought that, "Hey, if I take a two-by-four that is long enough 
> > to cover all the keys on a piano, and slam it down on all the keys at 
> > one time, that I would thus create every other piece ever written, or 
> > that will be written"... I have since grown up...
> > 
> > I don't think any court would allow you to even consider this 
> > possibility, as there is an issue of context. A single sample by itself, 
> > has absolutely no relationship to another sample, and as such, would 
> > make each of these 65536 "piece" NON-unique. I think this would be like 
> > trying to create a piece with a single sound that is continuous, but 
> > never changes. Something, in my opinion, has to be unique to the piece 
> > to be able to claim copyright.
> 
> but that is exactly what the record industry is neglecting: that taking 
> samples and putting them together for a new piece is really creating 
> something new. they think they can own a series of samples as property 
> and if you include that into a piece you have to pay them money.
> 
> there is no rule or limit for the length, the whole copyright system is 
> based on vague assumptions, rather based on intimidation than on legal 
> thoughts.
> marius.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Now, if you wanted to create a sample file with TWO samples in it, you 
> > would need to create 65536 * 65536 sound files... That would be 
> > 4,294,967,296 sound files. And if played end to end in a single pass, it 
> > would last about 55 hours... I don't think I would mind missing that 
> > concert.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:39 PM, marius schebella 
> > <marius.schebella at gmail.com <mailto:marius.schebella at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > 
> >     pit klong wrote:
> >      >> http://www.kreidler-net.de/productplacements-e.html
> >      >
> >      > qewl. he could give us his patch and we'd make the same.. ;)
> >      >
> > 
> >     in theory there are only 65536 different possibilites for amplitudes of
> >     one sample, so if you register 65536 pieces of music, each 1 sample
> >     long, then you you should be able to claim copyright from everyone who's
> >     music is based on amplitudes. maybe you can also register one sample of
> >     0, then you could even make money from people who don't make music.
> >     just imagine: you can claim copyright for every sample of every piece of
> >     music.
> >     marius.
> > 
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