[PD] copy-paste vs. duplicate behavior (was Re: Pd-list Digest, Vol 46, Issue 108)

Ingo Scherzinger ingo at miamiwave.com
Sat Jan 31 19:54:27 CET 2009


I'm sorry to say that you have absolutely no idea what I'm doing. So please
don't make unnecessary comments like this one.

I'm implementing a LCD user interface that has many, many similar pages but
the content and also the number of parameters differs on every single page.
No way to do it with abstractions!!!

So if anything in all of the pages changes it  h a s  to be copied back to
the same place in the other pages!

I totally agree that using abstractions is the more economical way. So
actually I do use abstractions where it makes sense of course. However, this
doesn't eliminate the need of making "similar" copies of sub patches and
copying objects from one to the other.


> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Ingo Scherzinger wrote:
> > I agree with pasting to the same window the cursor position would be the
> > best solution. But please leave it the way it is for different windows.
> > I always copy objects that have been changed to almost identical windows
> > and they are right in the spot where they belong. Changing this
> > behaviour would be very annoying if you're doing things like this.
> I believe that in general you shouldn't have to make copy-paste like that,
> and a language is called "powerful" when it allows you to avoid the
> copy-paste and instead replace it with a more concise description of
> what's going on. In Pd this is made using something called "abstractions".
> But Pd not being so powerful in that sense of the word, there are also
> many situations where you have to copy-paste, and many situations where
> it's simpler to copy-paste than to try to contort the thing into something
> abstractable the pd way. There are also situations that are not really
> worth abstracting in any language.
> If you already know all of this, I'm sorry to say it, and in any case, I
> can only hope that some people will benefit from this email...

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