[PD] copy-paste vs. duplicate behavior (was Re: Pd-list Digest, Vol 46, Issue 108)

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Yeah, I was thinking something similar.  Perhaps paste should always  
just leave the whole thing dangling on the mouse pointer until you  
click to put it down.   Or maybe paste just does the 10x10 shift and  
Duplicate does the dangling behavior.

.hc

On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

> Maybe there could be a menu item that toggles between a) making  
> pasted objects dangle from the mouse (similar to what happens when  
> hitting ctrl-1), or b) shifting 10x10 for the same window and  
> leaving everything as is for different windows.
>
> (Hopefully I didn't double post this...)
>
> -Jonathan
>
> --- On Sat, 1/31/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>
>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
>> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 46, Issue 108
>> To: "Ingo Scherzinger" <ingo at miamiwave.com>
>> Cc: pd-list at iem.at
>> Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 10:16 PM
>> Yeah, I thought some people might do that.  As it is now,
>> newbies get
>> really annoyed and frustrated, as well as some experienced
>> users.  I
>> figure it is easy enough for someone in your position to
>> hit shift-
>> left-arrow, then shift-up-arrow and it'll be back to
>> the original
>> position.  That's much easier than recovering from
>> pasting a copy
>> right on top of itself.
>>
>> Maybe someone can come up with an even better idea that
>> solves both
>> issues.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:34 AM, Ingo Scherzinger wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with pasting to the same window the cursor
>> position would be
>>> the
>>> best solution. But please leave it the way it is for
>> different
>>> windows.
>>> I always copy objects that have been changed to almost
>> identical
>>> windows and
>>> they are right in the spot where they belong. Changing
>> this
>>> behaviour would
>>> be very annoying if you're doing things like this.
>>>
>>> Ingo
>>>
>>>
>>>> well, the current behavior is helpful when pasting
>> into a different
>>>> window
>>>> if it has similar dimensions, but if we are
>> copying a piece of a
>>>> patch
>>>> which
>>>> was way down in a window into a new window, then
>> the pasted code
>>>> ends up
>>>> in
>>>> the same place too and one has to go look for it.
>> This also happens
>>>> because
>>>> the window doesn't focus in the pasted
>> section, but keeps the 0,0
>>>> coordinates.
>>>> I think in general, (or when pasting to the same
>> window) it would
>>>> be nice
>>>> to
>>>> paste into the last clicked coordinate.
>>>>
>>>> In any case I am so used to it by now that I can
>> survive in these
>>>> conditions.
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Miller Puckette
>>>> <mpuckett at imusic1.ucsd.edu>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think if pasting to the same window this
>> would be reasonable - but
>>>> I've
>>>>> always had in mind, instead, to paste the
>> objects to a new place
>>>> determined
>>>>> by current cursor position, which would be far
>> better.  Just haven't
>>>> been
>>>>> able to think it through and do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> M
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 06:53:22PM -0500,
>> Hans-Christoph Steiner
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was thinking that it would be nice if
>> copy-paste had the same
>>>>>> response and duplicate, i.e. shifting the
>> position over by 10
>>>>>> pixels
>>>>>> in x and y, then pasting.  I can't see
>> a good reason why paste
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> do that.  Anyone know of any?  Newbies get
>> very frustrated by the
>>>>>> current behavior.  Regular users get used
>> to the Duplicate command,
>>>>>> but I don't know of any other programs
>> where you can't just copy-
>>>>>> paste
>>>>>> and you need a special function.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .hc
>>>
>>>
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