[PD] mapping: path setting hell
hans at eds.org
Wed Apr 8 22:58:48 CEST 2009
On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:35 AM, cyrille henry wrote:
>>> i think for this specific lib, any dependency of object outside it's
>>> directory can be seen as a bug.
>> I don't understand this at all. Why did every modern operating
>> spend massive amounts of work to switch from static linking of
>> (i.e. including the library with the program itself) to dynamic,
>> libraries (i.e. a single copy of a library shared by all programs
>> use it)?
> I think, advantages and disadvantages have to be weighted, and IMO
> currently is leaning to a not very user friendly side. For example
> its use of
> [float_argument], [symbol_argument] and [once] from purepd creates a
> on purepd that is completely unnecessary: [once] is only used once,
> [symbol_argument] also, and float_argument very often is used where
> a simple [f
> $1] would be enough (its second argument is empty). So I'd say, get
> rid of it
> and be more friendly to users.
If there is good code out there, I want to use it, not reinvent it.
If you use mapping in Pd-extended, you never need to know anything
about what's happening inside, it just works. With a little bit of
effort, Pd-vanilla users can also acheive this. That's why I am
fixing up libdir.c and these libraries in SVN.
> Another case is the "standardization" to use abstraction names, that
> the (sometimes broken) hexloader: Life would be much easier for a
> lot of people
> without the "->" convention.
Indeed, I fully agree. That's why I fixed it over a year ago :D
mapping needs to hexloader tricks.
> Other cases may not be so easy to fix and some externals are hard to
> but as it currenly is, mapping looks like a collection that puts
> some abstract
> design principles higher than actual user demands. Of course that's
> just my
> humble opinion, which is leaning to a much more simplistic side.
These libraries were a place for me to experiment with ways of
handling libraries in Pd easier. Some of the experiments failed, but
I think right now its in a pretty good place. So try it out the way
it is now and tell me what doesn't work.
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