[PD] pd~ for Max

Tue Sep 1 19:46:33 CEST 2009

yep :)
in effect it works quite fine for me in Max4 only - using the external I 
compiled tonigth with Max5 SDK - but it does not works yet in Max5...

fred

marius schebella wrote:
> okayyyyyyyyy!
> so what I have to do is:
> start the help patch with max4,
> then open Options - DSP Status
> (If I try to open the panel later, I get an error saying
> error: Bad file descriptor)
> then I had to replace the opendialog with a simple message starting
> with "/Users/marius...", as opposed to what I got before
> "mac_hd:/Users/marius...".
> and then I clicked on this message, pd would start up and spit out a
> message with a lot of zeros. and then I start sound as you said from
> the DSP Status window.
> hmmm... actually trying the whole thing again,
> it now works by just starting pd with the pddir message and the start
> message and *then* clicking on ;dsp start.
> but only once, I cannot stop pd and start it again, that brings me
> into freeze mode again..
> ah, it works if I turn off dsp in max before stopping pd, and then
> start it again, and then turn on dsp again.
> marius.
> 
> 
> 2009/9/1 Miller Puckette <mpuckett at imusic1.ucsd.edu>:
>> No, I mean the Max thing... I don't have Max here, but maybe it's called
>> "DSP preferences"?
>>
>> cheers
>> M
>> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 06:07:35PM +0200, marius schebella wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> thanks miller, are you talking about the pd audio settings? cause the
>>> dialog won't open up either, everything is frozen.
>>> with physically going in and out, you mean connecting a cable to the
>>> mini jack of your macbook(pro)?? should I also say a small prayer? or
>>> use my little max voodoo doll.
>>> no, seriously, I could still not get it running, sorry.
>>> do I need jack for this to work?
>>> best, marius.
>>>
>>> 2009/9/1 Miller Puckette <mpuckett at imusic1.ucsd.edu>:
>>>> Hi Marius,
>>>>
>>>> For Max 4, that's the symptom I got -- even after hitting the "max DSP 1"
>>>> button on the patch -- until I went into the audio settings panel and actually
>>>> got sound running in and out of hardware. ?For me at least, the Max scheduler
>>>> apparently didn't even run the DSP objects unless audio was physically going
>>>> in and out.
>>>>
>>>> For Max5, the API is supposedly unchanged (except, as Thomas Grill mentioned,
>>>> GUI stuff that pd~ doesn't use). ?However, the scheduler or audio I/O
>>>> systems might be different for example -- so this is probably going to take
>>>> some fooling around to debug.
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>> Miller
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:40:09AM +0200, marius schebella wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I tried to run pd~ on max4 and max5, but no luck either. with max4 i can
>>>>> create a pd~ object with inlets and outlets, and when I start pd, the pd
>>>>> window starts up, but nothing else happens. max freezes, I guess trying
>>>>> to open the pd~-subprocess.pd patch?
>>>>> on max5 the situation is exactly the same as fred-ordi described, an
>>>>> object box without in and outlets (although in the help-patch there
>>>>> *are* ins and outs), and with a message in the max window saying pd~
>>>>> version 0.2. but clicking on start pd~... does nothing.
>>>>> tried different settings for the directory, too, no change.
>>>>> I used 0.42.5. and 10.5.8.
>>>>> I can try to compile pd~ for 10.5 later today. is there someone who has
>>>>> pd~ running on osx? which versions of max and pd are you using?
>>>>> marius.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>> It probably needs to be compiled for Max5. ?Anyone with Max5 want to
>>>>>> give it a shot?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:43 AM, fred-ordi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes, here same with Pd-0.42-5 and Max5 on OSX 10.5.8, not yet succeed in:
>>>>>>> Max window tells nothing about something wrong ("pd~ version 0.2"
>>>>>>> printed to Max window when instantiated) but the pd~ object in
>>>>>>> pd~.help patcher appears with a dark foreground colorlike if the
>>>>>>> external is wrong...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Miller Puckette wrote:
>>>>>>>> Oh... good idea (I have only Max 4; my OS is too old to upgrade to 5)
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> M
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:32:27PM +0200, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>>> pd~ for max does not even launch Pd here.
>>>>>>>>> DSP is on.
>>>>>>>>> Is there anybody else on the Pd-list who has Max5 installed on OS X
>>>>>>>>> who could try this out?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thx, Max
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 28.08.2009 um 19:54 schrieb Miller Puckette:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I had the same problem for a while... for pd~ to work not only do
>>>>>>>>>> you have to
>>>>>>>>>> start "dsp" in the help window but you also have to have audio
>>>>>>>>>> going ?in and
>>>>>>>>>> out of Max. ?Otherwise Pd start up but does nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>> M
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:47:11PM +0200, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm having trouble getting it to run - there is no INSTALL
>>>>>>>>>>> instructions, but i guess
>>>>>>>>>>> pd~.mxo lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-externals/
>>>>>>>>>>> and pd~.help lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-help/
>>>>>>>>>>> allthough the other files are called .maxhelp, not .help
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i restarted Max and created a pd~ Object, it has no in or outlets but
>>>>>>>>>>> i can open the Help from there, switch Audio on and Select the
>>>>>>>>>>> Pd-0.42-5.app but nothing happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what am i doing wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.08.2009 um 05:35 schrieb Miller Puckette:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oops, sorry about that... I reorganized some stuff and that fell
>>>>>>>>>>>> through a crack. ?It's back up on:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>> Miller
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug ?pd~
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> available?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's neither here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and here neither:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authors&initiale=M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> max
>>>>>>>>>>
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