[PD] new GUI screenshots

[András Murányi]

2009/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>

>
> It looks so nice on the Mac...! ;o)
>
> It's a pity it looks way less 21th Century here on Hardy... fyi I have
> attached the screenshot.
>
>
> Make you are are running Tcl/Tk 8.5 and it'll look much better.  Install
> tcl8.5 and tk8.5, then run:
> "update-alternatives --config wish" and choose wish8.5.  Then Pd will use
> the much improved Wish 8.5.
>

Thanks! Now fonts are anti-aliased. Plus the startup plugins started to
work, which means that at least some of them don't work with tcl/tk<=8.4.
I have attached a screenshot for your viewing pleasure.


> I have also mocked up a version with my ideas (which are based on my rather
> limited knowledge of Pd). Please take a look at it.
>
>
> Did you mock it up in Tcl?
>

Nay. Xara Xtreme ;o)

- Afaik the IN/OUT meters are for the DSP so I would group them with the DSP
switch.

Makes sense.
>
> - I would omit the IN/OUT meter switch. Can we? Or is this a CPU-hog?
>
>
> I think its useful just to be able to have less distractions.
>

Useful to have it? So that the meter doesn't distract you?
Or useful to omit? So the switch doesn't distract you?
;o)


>
> - I would suggest having some kind of MIDI IN/OUT LEDs... which could also
> serve as switches in case you want to suspend MIDI reception or
> transmission. In my graphics they are just simple switches but I'm not sure
> it is possible to 'blink' those switches. If not, then we could have
> separate switches and LEDs.
>
>
> That also sounds useful for those who use MIDI.  'pd' is not currently
> sending 'pd-gui' that info tho.
>

I'm one of the guys who don't use DSP, my output is nuttin-but-MIDI. (Now
that I think there may be guys whos output is mainly to the network...)


> - A LOAD meter. Is this a CPU hog? If not, can we have it on the Pd window?
> (It is quite hidden under the Media menu, imho also because Media is a quite
> fuzzy name.)
>
>
> That's a nice idea.  It would require writing the Tcl code to get the load
> from the OS, but that's probably easy.
>

Once we clean up the Media menu, we may be able to find a better name for
it. Just my 2 cents.

> - Console hide, clear. Let's try to have it somewhere right above the
> console!
>
>
> A clear button is ok, it is on the File menu.  As for hide, I think its
> easier to just have window resizing work well.  With the pdwindow in
> pd-gui-rewrite, you can manually resize it down to just the metters/buttons.
>

At the current version, i have 'Clear console' in the Edit menu but Hide
console is gone. I think it could be kept however (regardless of what is the
actual routine that it runs), and I even think it's not bad to provide it on
the GUI and in the menu as well. Anyway, it's certainly good to have a
control as close to the controlled item as possible, whenever possible.

BTW, I have a dream which is that the console is tabbed, and the default tab
displays system messages, while for each [print PREFIX] a new tab is opened.
That way messages get separated by PREFIX. It's just a silly dream, forget
it ;op


> .hc
>

Thanks for your time!

Andras
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