[PD] new GUI screenshots

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Tue Sep 15 01:46:43 CEST 2009

On Sep 14, 2009, at 12:15 AM, Luke Iannini wrote:

> 2009/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>> 2009/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>>> It looks so nice on the Mac...! ;o)
>>> It's a pity it looks way less 21th Century here on Hardy... fyi I  
>>> have
>>> attached the screenshot.
>>> Make you are are running Tcl/Tk 8.5 and it'll look much better.   
>>> Install
>>> tcl8.5 and tk8.5, then run:
>>> "update-alternatives --config wish" and choose wish8.5.  Then Pd  
>>> will use
>>> the much improved Wish 8.5.
>> Thanks! Now fonts are anti-aliased. Plus the startup plugins  
>> started to
>> work, which means that at least some of them don't work with tcl/ 
>> tk<=8.4.
>> I have attached a screenshot for your viewing pleasure.
>>> I have also mocked up a version with my ideas (which are based on my
>>> rather limited knowledge of Pd). Please take a look at it.
>>> Did you mock it up in Tcl?
>> Nay. Xara Xtreme ;o)
>> - Afaik the IN/OUT meters are for the DSP so I would group them  
>> with the DSP
>> switch.
>>> Makes sense.
>>> - I would omit the IN/OUT meter switch. Can we? Or is this a CPU- 
>>> hog?
>>> I think its useful just to be able to have less distractions.
>> Useful to have it? So that the meter doesn't distract you?
>> Or useful to omit? So the switch doesn't distract you?
>> ;o)
>>> - I would suggest having some kind of MIDI IN/OUT LEDs... which  
>>> could also
>>> serve as switches in case you want to suspend MIDI reception or
>>> transmission. In my graphics they are just simple switches but I'm  
>>> not sure
>>> it is possible to 'blink' those switches. If not, then we could have
>>> separate switches and LEDs.
>>> That also sounds useful for those who use MIDI.  'pd' is not  
>>> currently
>>> sending 'pd-gui' that info tho.
>> I'm one of the guys who don't use DSP, my output is nuttin-but- 
>> MIDI. (Now
>> that I think there may be guys whos output is mainly to the  
>> network...)
>>> - A LOAD meter. Is this a CPU hog? If not, can we have it on the Pd
>>> window? (It is quite hidden under the Media menu, imho also  
>>> because Media is
>>> a quite fuzzy name.)
>>> That's a nice idea.  It would require writing the Tcl code to get  
>>> the load
>>> from the OS, but that's probably easy.
>> Once we clean up the Media menu, we may be able to find a better  
>> name for
>> it. Just my 2 cents.
>>> - Console hide, clear. Let's try to have it somewhere right above  
>>> the
>>> console!
>>> A clear button is ok, it is on the File menu.  As for hide, I  
>>> think its
>>> easier to just have window resizing work well.  With the pdwindow in
>>> pd-gui-rewrite, you can manually resize it down to just the  
>>> metters/buttons.
> Yo, just a quick suggestion to make Pd a better Mac citizen – closing
> the console should just hide it (and you'd then be able to pull it up
> again from the Window menu).  That plus a "Show Console on Startup"
> preference would make Pd much more
> "patch-redistribution-to-those-without-Pd-knowledge" friendly.
> Sorry I can't offer code, hopefully I'll have time to return to the
> fold very soon!
> Luke

It does that now, but there are some glitches.  Give it a shot.


>> At the current version, i have 'Clear console' in the Edit menu but  
>> Hide
>> console is gone. I think it could be kept however (regardless of  
>> what is the
>> actual routine that it runs), and I even think it's not bad to  
>> provide it on
>> the GUI and in the menu as well. Anyway, it's certainly good to  
>> have a
>> control as close to the controlled item as possible, whenever  
>> possible.
>> BTW, I have a dream which is that the console is tabbed, and the  
>> default tab
>> displays system messages, while for each [print PREFIX] a new tab  
>> is opened.
>> That way messages get separated by PREFIX. It's just a silly dream,  
>> forget
>> it ;op
>>> .hc
>> Thanks for your time!
>> Andras
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