[PD] smartphone advice

[Nicholas Mariette]

Hi Hans,

I'm curious about the iPhone port:

What's the main broad goal of this effort? (I mean other than the  
obvious of having Pd working on iPhone, which will be great!).
Is the plan to have Pd for iPhone as an open-source app for the  
community? - i.e. for jailbroken itouch things?

Will the audio i/o code be open source (is that even possible with  
Apple), and if so, which license?
Or is this a private experiment?

Can you elaborate, or did I miss something on the list?

cheers
Nick



On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> Yes of course.  RIght now you can do everything in a Pd patch in  
> both Android and iPhoneOS except input/output audio or MIDI.  So  
> netsend/netreceive work, for example.  You could build a streaming  
> externals to stream audio in/out.
>
> We'll get the audio stuff ironed out soon, there is some code in the  
> works.
>
> .hc
>
> On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:53 PM, João Pais wrote:
>
>> how about control? I was hoping of in the future perform in the  
>> middle of the room with a htc magic (or something) controlling my  
>> patch on the laptop in the stage. is osc already available in all  
>> these platforms?
>>
>>
>>> Everything works but audio input and output, but that's in the  
>>> works.  Externals work too, if you use a jailbroken device, you  
>>> don't need to heed Apple's lame restrictions.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Si Mills wrote:
>>>
>>>> SO this is certainly interesting
>>>>
>>>> When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio, what  
>>>> does that mean? THe pd gui works?
>>>>
>>>> I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and go  
>>>> with the android phone.........
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> THere are a number of developments in this regard:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for  
>>>>> Android and Apple iPhoneOS.  Maemo should be pretty easy too.   
>>>>> No audio yet, but that's in the works.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while,  
>>>>> that means lots of devices if you are willing to install your  
>>>>> own OS.  You can install Debian in parallel with Android.
>>>>>
>>>>> - you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like  
>>>>> Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work  
>>>>> well there.  Android will take a fair amount of work to get up  
>>>>> to the same level, but in the long run will probably be easier  
>>>>> since the platform is a lot more open.
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> same problem here, not sure what to get.
>>>>>> another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia  
>>>>>> n900,
>>>>>> which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs  
>>>>>> maemo
>>>>>> (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of  
>>>>>> maemo -
>>>>>> it was possible to get pd-anywhere running.
>>>>>> But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything.
>>>>>> for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both  
>>>>>> do not
>>>>>> run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the  
>>>>>> iphone.
>>>>>> marius.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/10/29 Chris McCormick <chris at mccormick.cx>:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +0000, Si Mills wrote:
>>>>>>>> to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it  
>>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>>> moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion  
>>>>>>>> on that front
>>>>>>>> soon,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris.
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