[PD] Research delay

Gintaras Lau. gintarman at gmail.com
Thu Nov 12 12:48:55 CET 2009


Hello João Pais,

exactly I'm looking for help to get on a track to understand the
situation for such approach in the world of sound technologies. I
noticed programmers use these tricks in they patches to get some
predictable or in-range randomization. I'm not quit sure about
formulation of question, because I was using commercial sound
sequencing software, VST's and etc. The opportunities of pd strongly
impressed me so I fought to use it in research I'm writing.

It's simple to use values of env~ and apply to control limiters,
delays and etc. What I expect to figure out is technological aspects
and theoretical approach. That's besides programming a patch, but I
couldn't hold my self to try. I saw people discussing various topics
(off programming) on list and did it my way. Nobody understood me on
pd~forum as well, so now I'm sure a revision and clarification is
necessary for the direction of my work


Thank you very much.
G




2009/11/9 João Pais <jmmmpais at googlemail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> the idea sounds simple to do. What kind of feedback from the list are you
> asking exactly?
>
> I guess that besides programming the patch, on a real world situation you
> must be careful with the feedback of the speakers, so that the feedback
> doesn't end up triggering the feedback itself. Maybe a clamp microphone
> attached to the instrument (which kind of saxophone?) would be the better
> choice. Although if the hall is big enough, a normal mic should also work.
>
> João Pais
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm making a diploma work and need help from community like this to
>> assure that my work is related to science or is a part of it, even if
>> it (what I did) just a small improvement on the other hand.
>> There is no information about it in my native language, so sometimes I
>> get confused about what I'm looking for, because many things are
>> interesting to me and the field is getting wider and more confusing.
>>
>> I have tried many delay effect patches and found one made by Maelstorm
>> on pd-forum. I upgraded it to stereo, mounted into structure I needed
>> and something I call an improvement. This delay processor does
>> something what I think might be considered as humanized behavior. It
>> takes audio of the musician (Saxophone) and creates an echo effect
>> (tap function included), but output of the echo signal is controlled
>> by the previous amount of volume (vu) of the input. You can set a
>> feedback at the maximum amount, but if there is no input signal at
>> that time from the instrument, than echo goes down (gradually or fast)
>> as well. It sounds pleasant because there is another parameter that
>> appeared during the construction process, an interpolation time or
>> sensitivity how fast it follow the input ([line]) . So the amount of
>> echo volume can't exceed the the amount of dry signal, what I take as
>> an aesthetic value in a live performance (tested).
>>
>> Any pd user know how simple it is to make it using this software, but
>> I couldn't find anybody did or mentioned about delay controlled by the
>> signal witch has a human or instrument property (amplitude applied as
>> control). I work with DAW's like Cubase and know that there is no
>> delay like that.
>>
>> I want to ask if the community has an opinion about my idea, taking
>> all possible aspects that comes to his mind. I think there is no
>> better place as this to give such questions and use it's answers as
>> vector to continue research. In the community I am now there are no
>> students or lecturers that use pd and any other interesting things
>> that it offer. So at least truth has to come out of my research.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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