[PD] networking with Pd (was Re: (no subject))

[Andrew Faraday]

Hey all
Out of all that, [netserver] and [netclient] won over, we're working on a couple of abstractions for network conducting including metronome, broadcast messenger and a universal volume modifier. If anyone's interested I can make these available once tested and let you know about the experiences.

> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:43:57 +0100
> From: errordeveloper at gmail.com
> To: pd-list at iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] networking with Pd (was Re: (no subject))
> 
> ALSA library is capable to do that for you,
> look in aseqnet(1) manpage.
> i haven't had a chance to use it yet myself..
> 
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:05:29PM -0300, Ariane stolfi wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > just another question in this subject,
> > what do you sugest for sending midi values between two computers
> > through ethernet?
> > 
> > tnx
> > ariane
> > 
> > 2010/4/13 Andrew Faraday <jbturgid at hotmail.com>:
> > > Thanks, folks, there's a lot to think about there.
> > >
> > > Another workshop this evening, so we'll see what we find most useful.
> > >
> > > Yeah, the lack of a subject was a sheer accident on my part.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:29:37 +0200
> > >> From: zmoelnig at iem.at
> > >> CC: pd-list at iem.at
> > >> Subject: [PD] networking with Pd (was Re: (no subject))
> > >>
> > >> is there a reason for omitting the subject?
> > >>
> > >> On 2010-04-12 21:11, Paulo Casaes wrote:
> > >> > netsend and netreceive can send any type of message. You should look
> > >> > into OSC for your needs.
> > >>
> > >> well afaics, OSC doesn't give you any advantage with the original
> > >> problems.
> > >> the problem seems to be related to Pd's messages rather than the
> > >> net-objects (e.g. "[blu( -> [send val1 $1(" won't work, but if you use
> > >> "[symbol blu(" it will; see the Pd-documentation and the list archives
> > >> for why this is so)
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > In a related question, what is the difference between netsend and
> > >> > sendOSC?
> > >>
> > >> #0 i don't know whether i have said this before, but just in case:
> > >> [sendOSC] is unmaintained and buggy, and i would suggest to not use it.
> > >> use mrpeach's [packOSC] and [udpsend] instead.
> > >>
> > >> #1 they are different objects; [netsend] uses FUDI (which looks just
> > >> like Pd-messages) as the application layer protocol, whereas [sendOSC]
> > >> oses OSC
> > >>
> > >> > Can netsend and netreceive be used for OSC?
> > >>
> > >> no.
> > >> they are different, non-compatible application layer protocols (OSC uses
> > >> binary data enriched with meta-data, whereas Pd's FUDI is plain text
> > >> with a special meaning of semicolon)
> > >>
> > >> you can probably construct an OSC-message that is parseable as a FUDI
> > >> message and vice-versa, but nothing that i would "use".
> > >>
> > >> fgmasr
> > >> IOhannes
> > >>
> > >
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