[PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Tue Aug 24 07:19:40 CEST 2010

On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> Yeah, the IEMGUI font size issues are still very present.  I think  
>> the best way forward is to write a new GUI lib, the IEMGUI code is  
>> really hard to follow and/or modify.
> Come on. It only has with the use of the -%d in the sys_vgui calls,  
> whereever the "fs" variable appears. We introduced that to fix a  
> certain problem about sizes, but for some reason, it didn't produce  
> the result we expected (the use of pixel sizes). It will be a small  
> fix like this, by search-and-replace in a few files or so.

Please fix it and submit a patch, that would be awesome!

>> That's why I started the tkwidgets library and I hope to pick it up  
>> again soon, and also that others will contribute.
> Your TkWidgets won't provide the same functionality, and I have no  
> guarantee that it will be any easier to maintain. What will you do  
> differently, so that it becomes easier to maintain ?
> I ask because, currently, there's mostly only one structure of GUI  
> widget used in externals other than mine, and it's largely a calque  
> of IEMGUI's, in all cases something quite verbose (though at least  
> it shares some code in g_all_guis.c in the case of IEMGUI). I  
> introduced several new ways of writing GUI externals (the old  
> gridflow way, the new gridflow way, and the desiredata way) but they  
> have been so undiscussed that I wonder whether any new GUI classes  
> would be any different in a good way. It really looks like whatever  
> research I do on the topic of readability and modifiability of the  
> GUI code has to be only for myself, as I don't seem to be getting  
> any honest feedback on it.
> what I currently see in /tkwidgets/ seems somewhat different from  
> the usual case, but currently I can't get it to run, and then, it  
> doesn't have a properties dialogue either, and then, it doesn't need  
> to render anything as multiple canvasitems because it's for wrapping  
> Tk Widgets instead of Tk Canvas Items, so, it's somewhat of a  
> different deal anyway.
> And it doesn't fix the problem with IEMGUIs, that people will  
> continue to use for quite a while. One of the advantages of the  
> IEMGUIs is that they are transparent (this is something I realised  
> much after I made my rewrite of IEMGUI in early 2004, in which I  
> made them opaque because back then I thought it was better that way).

I haven't looked at tkwidgets in a while, so I don't know the state,  



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