[PD] Pd performance at TED

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 22 21:15:47 CEST 2011


You're right, no one ever said that.  Even me.

Did you actually look at the patch?  It is a technological parody of record scratching.  
It perfectly fits the definition given on this list.  If you don't think so, then
please tell me what you can do with that patch that's so musically interesting that it 
would warrant buying a modern digital computer instead of a turntable.

Of course the answer should be obvious: it's a technological parody which serves 
as a brilliantly succinct example of the expressivity of Pd, and that's exactly what it 
needs to be, because it's a tutorial.

And of course one criticism of the performance referred to in this thread should 
be obvious, too, but isn't, because people start out with, "It's a technological parody," 
and then stop writing.  Which is what I did in my sample message to Miller, which would 
make it a waste of his time to read.

So the correct answer is: c.

-Jonathan

--- On Wed, 6/22/11, Cody Loyd <codyloyd at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Cody Loyd <codyloyd at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: pd-list at iem.at
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 8:32 PM

I don't think anyone actually said that sampling was a technological parody.  There are lots of things you can do with samples and loops that you wouldn't be able to do with whatever was being sampled.


On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Miller,
B07.sampler.pd is a technological parody.
Thanks,
Jonathan

Please tell me whether that means that a) Miller should remove that tutorial, 

b) he should revise it to be better, c) it's a waste of time for Miller to read it at all,
c) something else.

If you didn't choose a or b, then please explain how all of you can possibly be in 
agreement about any kind of judgment, aesthetic or otherwise, or even 

understand the relevance of each other's responses, merely by referring to the 
performance as a "technological parody".

-Jonathan

--- On Wed, 6/22/11, Olivier Baudu <lamouraupeuple at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Olivier Baudu <lamouraupeuple at gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [PD] Pd
 performance at TED
To: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans at at.or.at>
Cc: pd-list at iem.at, "Marco Donnarumma" <devel at thesaddj.com>

Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 6:59 PM

Hi list,


Whether or not you like his music is a separate question, I think its

very hard to refute that he has musical skill and talent with his

instrument.  And that is very rare with new interfaces for musical

expression.



.hc




I totally agree with you but only since he's explained how works his instrument...
It's pity that, on the video, the performance seems to show someone who's triggering some pre-recorded patterns...


In that case, I was quite agree with the "technological parody" expression... :-p

But it's not... and, clearly, Onyx has to be congratulated.

Bravo.

01ivier.


-- 
Envie de tisser ?


http://yamatierea.org/papatchs/



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