[PD] mp3: [WAS] Re: mp3 (layerII) or .wav/.aif stereo player!
Lorenzo Sutton
lorenzofsutton at gmail.com
Sun Nov 25 21:31:17 CET 2012
On 25/11/12 01:33, Björn Eriksson wrote:
> If you´re having an extremely boring saturday evening/night or sunday
> morning you can watch this video directly from Fraunhofer institute:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdRdTQVBxi4&blend=5&lr=1&ob=5
Instructive, as it tells us that:
- mp3 is the playmobil of audio (btw always loved lego much more than
playmobyl because it's much more modular and thus somewhat more open)
- quantity is much more important than quality these days
- Earth will explode due to a massive attack by an uncontrolled number
of mutant, mutiny lossy audio files!
>
> /Björn
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona
> <xamps23 at gmail.com <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been
> suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his original
> message with:
>
>
> "Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio
> file like an .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that?"
>
> Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice on a
> list :)
>
> I agree! By the way, that was my first post to the list, the whole
> thread has been interesting thought!
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Lorenzo Sutton
> <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On 23/11/12 11:21, Björn Eriksson wrote:
>
> I think one of the reason one might have to be able to play
> mp3´s or ogg´s from inside a pd-patch can be that you´re
> working with some interactivity, thematic project for
> instance where one is sniffing the web for sounds.
>
> I regard mp3´s as usual as for instance jpg´s are on the
> web, speaking of some image analogy of compressed formats. I
> don´t like the licencing of mp3 though and would prefer ogg
> to be the main standard.
>
> Sometimes there aren´t time enough to do conversions on the
> fly to uncompressed formats before importing files onto pd.
>
> I can with other words imaging a number of situations which
> could call for a a playability of mp3 and oggs.
>
>
> Obviously, there are cases where mp3 can be an option, but OP
> mentioned exporting from logic. Of course withot further
> background it's hard to tell, and there are many cases.
>
>
>
> Soundwise we all know wave and aiff sounds better, but I am
> a bit surprised this seems to be a so complicated and
> sensitive issue about having pd play a compressed sound file
> with some ease. Maybe this has been discussed over the years
> over and over,so forgive me if this already stated somewhere
> about these things.
>
>
> It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been
> suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his
> original message with:
>
>
> "Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio
> file like an .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that?"
>
> Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice
> on a list :)
>
> Lorenzo.
>
>
> /Björn Eriksson
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Lorenzo Sutton
> <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>
> <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.__com
> <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> On 20/11/12 19:04, Òscar Martínez Carmona wrote:
>
> [readsf~] seems to be what I was looking for!
> I'm not sure about mp3 layers and names , but when
> that layer
> II file is what I get with an mp3 bounce with Logic...
>
>
> Why should you export to mp* from logic? That sounds
> rather insane
> unless you *need* mp*
>
> mp* are lossy compressed, and unless you have a precise
> 'aesthetic' reason to having mpeg-degraded audio
> quality simply
> export to a lossless format.
>
> That said there are probably thousands of converters
> out there
> from-to mp* to anything, google is your friend there.
>
> Lorenzo.
>
> Thank you both!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM, chris clepper
> <cgclepper at gmail.com <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com>
> <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com>>
> <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com
> <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com> <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com
> <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>
> A MPEG-1 LAyer II file is MP2 not MP3. You
> will need to
> find a
> player/converter for that. Maybe VLC?
>
> There are multiple ways to play .wav files with
> Pd - check the
> example patches included with it.
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Òscar
> Martínez Carmona
> <xamps23 at gmail.com <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>>
> <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com
> <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com> <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com
> <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>
> Hi List!
> I'm trying to play an mp3 layerII file with
> [mp3play~]
> ans it
> does only support layer III files. While
> I'm looking
> for the
> appropiate converter (fail at that by now)
> I was
> wondering if
> there was another external able to play
> layer II files
> (the
> most common type, not?).
> Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an
> not compressed
> audio file like an .aiff or .wav but in
> stereo? how
> the f*ck
> I do that?
> Thanx!
>
> -- Òscar Martínez Carmona
>
>
>
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