[PD] mp3: [WAS] Re: mp3 (layerII) or .wav/.aif stereo player!

Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton at gmail.com
Sun Nov 25 21:31:17 CET 2012


On 25/11/12 01:33, Björn Eriksson wrote:
> If you´re having an extremely boring saturday evening/night or sunday
> morning you can watch this video directly from Fraunhofer institute:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdRdTQVBxi4&blend=5&lr=1&ob=5

Instructive, as it tells us that:

- mp3 is the playmobil of audio (btw always loved lego much more than 
playmobyl because it's much more modular and thus somewhat more open)
- quantity is much more important than quality these days
- Earth will explode due to a massive attack by an uncontrolled number 
of mutant, mutiny lossy audio files!


>
> /Björn
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona
> <xamps23 at gmail.com <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been
>     suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his original
>     message with:
>
>
>     "Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio
>     file like an  .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that?"
>
>     Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice on a
>     list :)
>
>     I agree! By the way, that was my first post to the list, the whole
>     thread has been interesting thought!
>
>
>     On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Lorenzo Sutton
>     <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         On 23/11/12 11:21, Björn Eriksson wrote:
>
>             I think one of the reason one might have to be able to play
>             mp3´s or ogg´s from inside a pd-patch can be that you´re
>             working with some interactivity, thematic project for
>             instance where one is sniffing the web for sounds.
>
>             I regard mp3´s as usual as for instance jpg´s are on the
>             web, speaking of some image analogy of compressed formats. I
>             don´t like the licencing of mp3 though and would prefer ogg
>             to be the main standard.
>
>             Sometimes there aren´t time enough to do conversions on the
>             fly to uncompressed formats before importing files onto pd.
>
>             I can with other words imaging a number of situations which
>             could call for a a playability of mp3 and oggs.
>
>
>         Obviously, there are cases where mp3 can be an option, but OP
>         mentioned exporting from logic. Of course withot further
>         background it's hard to tell, and there are many cases.
>
>
>
>             Soundwise we all know wave and aiff sounds better, but I am
>             a bit surprised this seems to be a so complicated and
>             sensitive issue about having pd play a compressed sound file
>             with some ease. Maybe this has been discussed over the years
>             over and over,so forgive me if this already stated somewhere
>             about these things.
>
>
>         It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been
>         suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his
>         original message with:
>
>
>         "Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio
>         file like an  .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that?"
>
>         Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice
>         on a list :)
>
>         Lorenzo.
>
>
>             /Björn Eriksson
>
>
>             On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Lorenzo Sutton
>             <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>
>             <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.__com
>             <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
>                  On 20/11/12 19:04, Òscar Martínez Carmona wrote:
>
>                      [readsf~] seems to be what I was looking for!
>                      I'm not sure about mp3 layers and names , but when
>             that layer
>                      II file is what I get with an mp3 bounce with Logic...
>
>
>                  Why should you export to mp* from logic? That sounds
>             rather insane
>                  unless you *need* mp*
>
>                  mp* are lossy compressed, and unless you have a precise
>                  'aesthetic' reason to having mpeg-degraded audio
>             quality simply
>                  export to a lossless format.
>
>                  That said there are probably thousands of converters
>             out there
>                  from-to mp* to anything, google is your friend there.
>
>                  Lorenzo.
>
>                      Thank you both!
>
>
>
>                      On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM, chris clepper
>                      <cgclepper at gmail.com <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com>
>             <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com>>
>                      <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com
>             <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com> <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com
>             <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>
>                          A MPEG-1 LAyer II file is MP2 not MP3.  You
>             will need to
>                      find a
>                          player/converter for that.  Maybe VLC?
>
>                          There are multiple ways to play .wav files with
>             Pd - check the
>                          example patches included with it.
>
>                          On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Òscar
>             Martínez Carmona
>                          <xamps23 at gmail.com <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>
>             <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>>
>                      <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com
>             <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com> <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com
>             <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>
>                              Hi List!
>                              I'm trying to play an mp3 layerII file with
>             [mp3play~]
>                      ans it
>                              does only support layer III files. While
>             I'm looking
>                      for the
>                              appropiate converter (fail at that by now)
>             I was
>                      wondering if
>                              there was another external able to play
>             layer II files
>                      (the
>                              most common type, not?).
>                              Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an
>             not compressed
>                              audio file like an  .aiff or .wav but in
>             stereo? how
>                      the f*ck
>                              I do that?
>                              Thanx!
>
>                              --         Òscar Martínez Carmona
>
>
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