[PD] mp3: [WAS] Re: mp3 (layerII) or .wav/.aif stereo player!

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Mon Nov 26 09:21:42 CET 2012


> - Earth will explode due to a massive attack by an uncontrolled number of mutant, mutiny lossy audio files!

Well, not much to fear as they will be lossy-ing!! 

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El 25/11/2012, a les 21:31, Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com> va escriure:
> On 25/11/12 01:33, Björn Eriksson wrote:
>> If you´re having an extremely boring saturday evening/night or sunday
>> morning you can watch this video directly from Fraunhofer institute:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdRdTQVBxi4&blend=5&lr=1&ob=5
> 
> Instructive, as it tells us that:
> 
> - mp3 is the playmobil of audio (btw always loved lego much more than playmobyl because it's much more modular and thus somewhat more open)
> - quantity is much more important than quality these days
> - Earth will explode due to a massive attack by an uncontrolled number of mutant, mutiny lossy audio files!
> 
> 
>> 
>> /Björn
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona
>> <xamps23 at gmail.com <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>    It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been
>>    suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his original
>>    message with:
>> 
>> 
>>    "Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio
>>    file like an  .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that?"
>> 
>>    Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice on a
>>    list :)
>> 
>>    I agree! By the way, that was my first post to the list, the whole
>>    thread has been interesting thought!
>> 
>> 
>>    On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Lorenzo Sutton
>>    <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>        On 23/11/12 11:21, Björn Eriksson wrote:
>> 
>>            I think one of the reason one might have to be able to play
>>            mp3´s or ogg´s from inside a pd-patch can be that you´re
>>            working with some interactivity, thematic project for
>>            instance where one is sniffing the web for sounds.
>> 
>>            I regard mp3´s as usual as for instance jpg´s are on the
>>            web, speaking of some image analogy of compressed formats. I
>>            don´t like the licencing of mp3 though and would prefer ogg
>>            to be the main standard.
>> 
>>            Sometimes there aren´t time enough to do conversions on the
>>            fly to uncompressed formats before importing files onto pd.
>> 
>>            I can with other words imaging a number of situations which
>>            could call for a a playability of mp3 and oggs.
>> 
>> 
>>        Obviously, there are cases where mp3 can be an option, but OP
>>        mentioned exporting from logic. Of course withot further
>>        background it's hard to tell, and there are many cases.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>            Soundwise we all know wave and aiff sounds better, but I am
>>            a bit surprised this seems to be a so complicated and
>>            sensitive issue about having pd play a compressed sound file
>>            with some ease. Maybe this has been discussed over the years
>>            over and over,so forgive me if this already stated somewhere
>>            about these things.
>> 
>> 
>>        It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been
>>        suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his
>>        original message with:
>> 
>> 
>>        "Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio
>>        file like an  .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that?"
>> 
>>        Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice
>>        on a list :)
>> 
>>        Lorenzo.
>> 
>> 
>>            /Björn Eriksson
>> 
>> 
>>            On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Lorenzo Sutton
>>            <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>
>>            <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.__com
>>            <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> 
>>                 On 20/11/12 19:04, Òscar Martínez Carmona wrote:
>> 
>>                     [readsf~] seems to be what I was looking for!
>>                     I'm not sure about mp3 layers and names , but when
>>            that layer
>>                     II file is what I get with an mp3 bounce with Logic...
>> 
>> 
>>                 Why should you export to mp* from logic? That sounds
>>            rather insane
>>                 unless you *need* mp*
>> 
>>                 mp* are lossy compressed, and unless you have a precise
>>                 'aesthetic' reason to having mpeg-degraded audio
>>            quality simply
>>                 export to a lossless format.
>> 
>>                 That said there are probably thousands of converters
>>            out there
>>                 from-to mp* to anything, google is your friend there.
>> 
>>                 Lorenzo.
>> 
>>                     Thank you both!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                     On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM, chris clepper
>>                     <cgclepper at gmail.com <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com>
>>            <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com>>
>>                     <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com
>>            <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com> <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com
>>            <mailto:cgclepper at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>> 
>>                         A MPEG-1 LAyer II file is MP2 not MP3.  You
>>            will need to
>>                     find a
>>                         player/converter for that.  Maybe VLC?
>> 
>>                         There are multiple ways to play .wav files with
>>            Pd - check the
>>                         example patches included with it.
>> 
>>                         On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Òscar
>>            Martínez Carmona
>>                         <xamps23 at gmail.com <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>
>>            <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>>
>>                     <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com
>>            <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com> <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com
>>            <mailto:xamps23 at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>> 
>>                             Hi List!
>>                             I'm trying to play an mp3 layerII file with
>>            [mp3play~]
>>                     ans it
>>                             does only support layer III files. While
>>            I'm looking
>>                     for the
>>                             appropiate converter (fail at that by now)
>>            I was
>>                     wondering if
>>                             there was another external able to play
>>            layer II files
>>                     (the
>>                             most common type, not?).
>>                             Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an
>>            not compressed
>>                             audio file like an  .aiff or .wav but in
>>            stereo? how
>>                     the f*ck
>>                             I do that?
>>                             Thanx!
>> 
>>                             --         Òscar Martínez Carmona
>> 
>> 
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