[PD] pd-l2ork feedback

Ivica Ico Bukvic ico at vt.edu
Sat Feb 23 02:55:57 CET 2013


Popup is similar in that respect--terribly inefficient when it comes it 
drawing it...

On 02/22/2013 08:34 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> OK, I hunted down some problems within the gop redrawing which should 
> streamline things even further. That said, flatgui objects like knob 
> are chronically broken. I also tested them in the latest version of 
> pd-extended. Try creating one knob, then another in the same window. 
> Now delete one and crash... Tons of problems with it on other levels 
> as well... I am really thinking about getting rid of flatgui altogether.
>
> On 02/22/2013 04:37 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
>> One clarification now that I read your report more carefully. Mknob 
>> makes abstraction movement slower because this is the 
>> old/non-accelerated pd way of moving things. The new pd-l2ork model 
>> falls back on that when at least one object in the abstraction does 
>> not support accelerated moving. Once I get to fixing the mknob to 
>> support accelerated displace, this will be fixed. I am still 
>> surprised to hear this is taking 5 minutes, though. Is this an 
>> exaggeration or truly 5 minutes?
>>
>> Also, if you are undoing objects that are non-accelerated or complex 
>> abstractions, you are running into same problems because you are 
>> moving and redrawing non-accelerated way...
>>
>> Is the same slowness perceived on regular pd when moving the said 
>> abstraction?
>>
>> On 02/22/2013 03:34 PM, András Murányi wrote:
>>> So, I've played around with the last git, here are some things I've 
>>> noticed:
>>> - miXed/toxy is not in pd-l2ork and it's perfectly alrite because 
>>> some kinds of [widget] work while others not.
>>> - [flatgui/popup] is installed by default but it throws an error 
>>> when clicked on: Invalid command name "pdtk_canvas_mouse".
>>> - moving a simple GOP abstraction with a single [mknob] in it takes 
>>> like 5 minutes (!) on a 2.4GHz dual core when the patch is big. It's 
>>> fast however when the patch is simple. Undoing the movement is not 
>>> instant but it is quick (~5sec).
>>> - nested GOP subpatches show off their outlines and xlets.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Murányi András
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> -- 
>> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A
>> Composition, Music Technology
>> Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
>> Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra
>> Head, ICAT IMPACT Studio
>> Virginia Tech
>> Department of Music
>> Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240
>> (540) 231-6139
>> (540) 231-5034 (fax)
>> disis.music.vt.edu
>> l2ork.music.vt.edu
>> ico.bukvic.net
>
>
> -- 
> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A
> Composition, Music Technology
> Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
> Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra
> Head, ICAT IMPACT Studio
> Virginia Tech
> Department of Music
> Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240
> (540) 231-6139
> (540) 231-5034 (fax)
> disis.music.vt.edu
> l2ork.music.vt.edu
> ico.bukvic.net


-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A
Composition, Music Technology
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra
Head, ICAT IMPACT Studio
Virginia Tech
Department of Music
Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240
(540) 231-6139
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
disis.music.vt.edu
l2ork.music.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net

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