[PD] Benefits of using an external soundcard?

Brian Fay ovaltinevortex at gmail.com
Fri Aug 9 14:42:54 CEST 2013


Is there a specific type of microphone you will be using? I've seen some
videos of Beardyman recently using some type of hands-free lavalier
microphone.

This and other condenser microphones require "Phantom Power," which is
provided by many audio interfaces and mixers but generally not built in to
an internal soundcard.

See how far you can get with what you have; there's no point in buying
something that you don't need. But you might find that you do need one
eventually.

Keep in mind that you'll need very low latency (less than 20 miliseconds)
for your application. I'm not sure if this is affected by the sound card or
not. All of the audio processing happens on the CPU, but maybe the
buffering stages for the sound card add enough delay to add latency...
could somebody  with more familiarity chime in here?


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Mario Mey <mariomey at gmail.com> wrote:

>  El 08/08/13 17:50, Charles Z Henry escribió:
>
>   Hi Mario
>
> The number one reason for having an external sound card is noise
> isolation.  The card's proximity to the power supply and motherboard are
> bad for EM noise.  Also, a computer power supply and a good audio power
> supply for recording have much the same relationship--there's more noise in
> switching electronics.
>
>  Next, there's the size constraints.  You'd have a hard time adding all
> the connectors for a large number of channels on a card which plugs in to
> your PCI(e) slots.
>
> It's ok, I have a notebook: 1 plug out, 1 plug in.
>
>
>  Third:  there's not as great a need for bandwidth for audio as there is
> with video.  Video cards need all that PCI(e) bandwidth.  Audio doesn't.
> It's a relatively small amount of data.  Of course--I think USB and
> firewire really don't have enough bandwidth for good scalability, but
> that's another discussion.
>
>  But... what are you doing with it?  You have different requirements for
> recording and for live sound.  Live sound:  just do it up.  No one will
> likely notice.
>
> Live sound is my purpose. Mic-in looping-station and multieffects system
> (following the steps of Beardyman and his Beardytron_5000). But, sorry
> about not understanding your expresion (english is not my native
> language).... What do you mean with "just do it up, no one will likely
> notice"? Should I buy it or no one will notice the difference? I think you
> mean I should...
>
>
> If you're planning on recording something on just 2 channels on the
> built-in sound card, keep in mind that your dynamic range will be pretty
> bad, even if you get a good pre-amp in the middle to take the most
> advantage of your range.  You'd much rather have an external sound card
> with some adjustable analog pre-amps in the box.
>
> About the soundcard I post, the Encore 7.1 ENMAB-8CM (
> http://www.encore-usa.com/ar/support/ENMAB-8CM)... it's really a china
> generic useless card... or it's good for starting? It has no analog pot.
>
>
>  Chuck
>
>
>    Thanks so much for your time.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Mario Mey <mariomey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm using my integrated soundcard:
>>
>> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia
>> (Intel HDA) (rev 40).
>>
>> I know that Pd is processing on CPU and I don't need more than 2 inputs
>> and 2 outputs channels. So... I "think" that there's no need to buy an
>> external one.
>>
>> Is there any benefit of using one?
>>
>> I know that this USB soundcard is not a very good one... but maybe it's
>> good for my economy. What's your opinion?
>>
>> http://www.encore-usa.com/ar/support/ENMAB-8CM
>>
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