[PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee

Pierre Guillot guillotpierre6 at gmail.com
Thu Jan 2 14:09:07 CET 2014

For Chocolate : I made this library because I wanted to have other
behaviors than those available in Vanilla or Extented, I think that design
and ergonomics are really important and can change your approach (I'm not a
specialist, but that seems obvious). Nevertheless, I understand that people
prefer to use the native objects, my propositions are totally subjective
and I think that a big part come from my experience with Max. Another
reason of this work is that I have another project and I need some specific
methods in the objects. I hope that you'll find this library more
interesting when I'll be able to present this work.

For Coffee : I work with Pd Vanilla 0.45 so I don't really use extented and
it was really fast and easy to code them so I did it... Except "prepend", I
don't know where are this objects in Extented (I'll be glad to know it) and
if we put the libraries in the extented distribution, we can remove my
objects (it doesn't matter).

The names came from a stupid joke with a friend where Vanilla became
Chocolate and Extented became Enhanced, nothing is really serious  (don't
worry, I do not claim to replace Vanilla or Extended). When I realized that
perhaps others than me could be interested to use the library, I wanted to
change the name to avoid mistake but it's really boring to do.

2014/1/2 IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>

> On 2013-12-31 11:46, Pierre Guillot wrote:
> > Quickly : Chocolate is a set of GUIs sometimes already available in PD
> > Vanilla, PD extented or Max with new features (like presets edition)
> that I
> > hope, you'll enjoy.
> as said before: they are great.
> > And it will be a part of a more complex project for the
> > writting of events. Coffee is a set of objects to facilitate the patch
> > creation.
> but i'm not so sure about these: i think each and every of these objects
> already exists in another library (often in the context of a more
> complete set of similar objects), so i don't fully see the point of them.
> >
> > Download : https://github.com/pierreguillot/PdEnhanced/releases
> and i would suggest to use another name instead of "PdEnhanced".
> the name suggests that it is a flavour (and the use of "chocolate" and
> "coffee" support this)  of Pd itself (like Pd-extended or Pd-l2ork) but
> your set of libraries really is just another set of libraries... there
> about 100 libraries in the puredata SVN repository at sourceforge.
> i guess it would be quite confusing if all of these libraries would be
> called "PdEnhanced".
> don't let this discourage you though :-)
> keep up providing new fancy objects.
> gfmards
> IOhannes
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