[PD] [Bulk] Extending Vanilla (was Cyclone help patches & issue list)

[Fred Jan Kraan]

On 2014-12-20 22:38, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:
> Is the idea to package an entire packaging system with Pd Vanilla?

For me the focus is now to create a sort of versionable, installable
package for cyclone*. But it could well apply to much more. A possible
structure could consist of several packages; pd-vanilla as core,
depending on it a ring of libraries making it an 'almost Max/MSP clone'
and a set of 'special-interest' libraries for those that want it.

I am happy to see there is an apt-get of sorts for all essential
non-linux platforms. There is still a lot of work to do, but we as
pd-community with limited resources don't have to 'build it from scratch'.

*) The hard-core crowd is happy with just a set of objects, but
new-users might like some guidance. Apart from that, some inherent
versioning is a good thing too.
> 
> -Jonathan
> 
Greetings,

Fred Jan
> 
> On Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:41 PM, András Murányi
> <muranyia at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
>     On 2014-12-20 19:09, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
>     > On 12/18/2014 10:13 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:
>     >> If there is a cross-platform repository system out there that is
>     well-tested and built to be _more_ secure than apt (i.e., defense
>     against replay attacks in the original design), perhaps it could be
>     leveraged.
>     >> Unfortunately I don't know anything about binary repo systems,
>     other than Debian's.
>     >> -Jonathan
>     >>
>     >>      On Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:04 PM, Fred Jan Kraan
>     <fjkraan at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>  On 2014-12-18 20:34, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
>     >>> On 12/18/2014 08:16 PM, Samuel Burt wrote:
>     >>>> 1. Opening a patch with [import cyclone] would automatically
>     download the
>     >>>
>     >>> i *strongly* oppose to anything that automatically connects to the
>     >>> internet and fetches or submits data.
>     >>
>     >> And the Pd-community currently does not have the resources to build
>     >> something that is similar or more advanced than the Debian
>     distribution
>     >> system and preferably be cross platform.
>     >
>     >
>     > so why not use apt?
>     >
>     > i mean, we could build on top of apt to do something "more" cross
>     platform.
>     > Debian (and thus apt) already handles multiple architectures and
>     > "operating systems" (well: kernels), so we just need a few others
>     archs:
>     > - w32-i386
>     > - w32-amd64
>     > - osx-i386
>     > - osx-amd64
>     >
>     > this would of course mean porting (parts of) apt to w32/osx (and i
>     have
>     > no clue how much work *that* means)
> 
>     Porting apt would indeed solve the Pd-distribution problem, and maybe
>     for more cross-platform packages.
> 
>     For MacOSX, the Fink package is based on Debian tools
>     (http://www.finkproject.org/). So that leaves Windows.
> 
>     >From the distant past I remember Inno Setup is free and usable
>     (http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php). As long as there is no native
>     apt for Windows that could do...
> 
>     Somehow, it looks a bit less abstract now :-).
>     >
>     > fgmrds
>     > IOhannes
>     >
>     Greetings,
> 
>     Fred Jan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/windows-get/
> https://chocolatey.org/
> http://dev.tranquil.it/wiki/WAPT_-_apt-get_pour_Windows
> ?
>  
> András
> 
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