[PD] Pd node-webkit port

s p sebpiq at gmail.com
Tue Feb 3 01:24:10 CET 2015


Answer from Forrest :

"Our examples pull from gists, and can't do subgraphs yet. Here is what it
looks like though: http://i.imgur.com/wQqvhlD.gifv"

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is there a demo of the user experience for displaying and navigating
> subpatches in Noflo?
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
>   On Monday, February 2, 2015 12:25 PM, s p <sebpiq at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi! Sorry for the slow answer. I've asked Forrest who is the developer for
> NoFlo-ui, and he answered that there is indeed subpatch support for
> noflo-ui. He suggests that if we are interested we should use directly
> noflo-ui, because it already runs the-graph which is just the raw graph
> library, and supports a simple protocol to add/remove/connect and so on
> nodes. He says there would be a bit of work to make it feel / look more
> like Pd, but I think they are interested as well as they would like to have
> more flexibility in there to support other use cases. He also linked me to
> somebody's repo who did exactly what I mention above for SuperCollider :
> https://github.com/jonnor/sndflo
>
> I'm going to start experimenting with this as soon as I have a bit of time
> (next week should be good), and I'll come back to you if interested :)
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Sébastien,
>
> Is there a small example of something like subpatching using that
> framework?  Most of the docs I've read on NoFlo seem to treat the concept
> as an afterthought.  There seems to be an emphasis on organizing large
> diagrams along the lines of train maps, which I think is the wrong metaphor.
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
>   On Sunday, January 25, 2015 5:01 AM, s p <sebpiq at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jonathan!
>
> (pinging Martin Roth who is currently messing around with Pd and web audio
> as well)
>
> Yes I am pretty sure it does implement subpatches.
>
> As for copy/paste that's another problem. I have never seen something such
> as copy/pasting graphical objects from one html page to another ... but
> nothing's impossible!!!
>
> Something I am more concerned about is the ability to create controls
> (buttons, number boxes, ...). I think it wasn't really designed for this
> purpose.
>
> On the other hand, even if the whole UI ends up not being a good match,
> several of it's components (for example auto layout, and so on) have been
> released as separate open-source packages so a possibility would be to
> build on top of those.
>
> In the next few weeks, I'll be finalizing WebPd refactor to Web Audio, and
> then if you want we can keep in touch and in sync to test this noflo UI in
> a pd context!
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> One question I have about the noflo UI is whether it supports the concept
> of subpatching.  I want to define a box's function by zooming into it and
> filling it with more boxes.
>
> It's not a difficult UI to imagine.  But to even have parity with Pd's
> scattered toplevel windows there would additionally need to be a way to
> quickly navigate from one branch to any other in the tree, and to pair
> distant branches in order to copy/paste content.  (For example, think of
> putting a patch window next to a subpatch window you got from opening three
> nested abstractions deep into a help-document.  If you're copying an object
> chain from that subpatch, you don't want those three parent patches in your
> view.)
>
> Atm I'm just punting by using the multi-window UI that tcl/tk has.  But if
> there's a way to work the idea of navigating subpatches into that
> framework, that'd be great.
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
>   On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:07 PM, Chris McCormick <
> chris at mccormick.cx> wrote:
>
>
> On 22/01/15 02:44, s p wrote:
> > I was actually
> > planning to use this : https://github.com/the-grid/the-graph which is a
> > generic data flow UI library for the web. It is so well done, works
> > great on touch interface, so I thought why the heck reinventing the
> > wheel.
>
> http://the-grid.github.io/the-graph/the-graph-editor/index.html
>
> Wow! Beautiful.
>
> This user interface plugged into a layer that can plug into libpd and/or
> WebPd would be magical.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUOPHqx5Gs
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris.
>
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