[PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

[Matt Barber]

[initbang] also helps with dynamic patching of [inlet]/[outlet], preserving
connections in the parent patch. [loadbang] won't do this (last I checked
anyway).

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list <
pd-list at lists.iem.at> wrote:

> There's a startup flag -noloadbang.
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 8:57 AM, Liam Goodacre <liamg_uw at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I'm more interested in stopping the loadbang than starting it. If you have
> a patch that dynamically creates itself (or worse deletes itself) when
> loaded, it is very useful to be able to inspect the patch without the the
> process starting. Initbang provides this because it bangs only when the
> patch is loaded as an abstraction, not when the patch is opened.
>
>
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:41:41 +0100
> > From: Jack <jack at rybn.org>
> > To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> > Subject: Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla
> > Message-ID: <56936AC5.6030301 at rybn.org>
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> > Hello,
> >
> > For dynamic patching, you can :
> > - import your abstraction in a subpatch
> > - send the message 'loadbang' to your subpatch
> >
> > => all your abstractions with the object 'loadbang' will send a bang
> > when the message 'loadbang' will be send.
> > ++
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 11/01/2016 04:27, Liam Goodacre a écrit :
> > > So no chance of getting them in Vanilla then? That's annoying, as
> > > they're both really useful objects. I particularly like [initbang]
> > > because it bangs only when the patch is loaded as an abstraction, not
> > > when it is opened. This is really useful for dynamic patching.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Message: 3
> > >> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:31:36 +0000 (UTC)
> > >> From: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
> > >> To: Roman Haefeli <reduzent at gmail.com>, "pd-list at lists.iem.at"
> > >> <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> > >> Subject: Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla
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> > >> <355667468.2920260.1452432696797.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com>
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> > >>
> > >> They are also in Pd-l2ork.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:36 AM, Roman Haefeli
> > > <reduzent at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 09:52 +0000, Liam Goodacre wrote:
> > >> > Which libraries are [closebang] and [initbang] in? They don't seem
> to
> > >> > load in Vanilla and I can't find the relevant information in the
> > >> > helpfiles so that I can use [declare].
> > >>
> > >> I'm not totally sure, but I believe those are part of the Pd-extended
> > >> core and cannot be implemented as externals. That's why you can't find
> > >> them anywhere but in Pd-extended.
> > >>
> > >> Roman
> > >>
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