[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0 test 1 released

AP Vague apvague at gmail.com
Sun Apr 24 21:09:56 CEST 2016


I did some test patches with the two versions that are compiled for OSX and
both had some problems with crashing Pd. I hadn't made much that was
complicated, so I don't think it's my fault such as a stack overflow. My
machine is a 2011 MacBook Pro running OSX 10.11.03.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at>
wrote:

> [list-drip] is indeed very nice and I can imagine it's great for teaching
> recursion, but after all it's a only a (albeit very clever) workaround for
> a problem which shouldn't exist in the first place ;-).
> However, I'm not sure at all if the solution would be additional methods
> for [list] or revising the existing code regarding some of the deep
> copying...
>
> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 24. April 2016 um 18:06 Uhr
> *Von:* "Matt Barber" <brbrofsvl at gmail.com>
> *An:* "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi at gmx.at>
> *Cc:* PD-List <pd-list at iem.at>, "Miller Puckette" <
> mpuckett at imusic1.ucsd.edu>
> *Betreff:* Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0 test 1 released
> I don't know, I have a huge soft spot for [list-drip]. I think it's the
> paradigmatic example of how to do a recursive function in Pd (naive
> approaches to which usually die with a stack overflow). It makes sense to
> have a built-in iteration method for [list], but I'd kind of selfishly hate
> to obsolete [list-drip]. It's great for teaching because it makes students
> think a lot about how things are implemented.
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks a lot! [clone] is a really awesome feature!
>>
>> I also like the new 'delete' method for [text]. Very nice!
>>
>> Just one question: Are there any plans to get rid of some deep copying in
>> the code for [list]? Some month ago we had a discussion about iterating
>> through lists in Pd and how it's not possible in linear time in pure
>> vanilla style (at least not in a trivial way, think of the [list-drip]
>> abstraction). You kind of made a hint that you might revise the code in a
>> future release. I'm just curious if this is something we could expect. I
>> checked and the 'naive' style with two [list split] objects still behaves
>> kind of exponentially.
>> Generally I find it a bit curious that in Pd one needs to split a list
>> twice (with all the copying involved) just to retrieve a single item. Have
>> you thought of implementing something like an 'iterate' method (I think I
>> even saw this in one of your to-do-lists) or even getter/setter methods,
>> like in [text] and [array]?
>>
>> Thanks a again for the release!
>>
>>
>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 23. April 2016 um 20:27 Uhr
>> > Von: "Miller Puckette" <msp at ucsd.edu>
>> > An: pd-announce at iem.at
>> > Betreff: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0 test 1 released
>> >
>> > To Pd-announce:
>> >
>> > Pd version 0.47-0 test 1 is available on
>> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
>> > or via git from sourceforge:
>> >   git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data
>> >
>> > I'm still fixing bugs but the major changes are in place: a "clone"
>> object
>> > for making voice banks etc., and a "zoom" feature for people whose
>> > high-resolution displays make Pd's windows microscopically small.
>> (Also,
>> > setting the Pd window font size now extends to menus and dialogs).
>> >
>> > cheers
>> > Miller
>> >
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