[PD] kyma x pd and others?

[Matt Barber]

Joel Chadabe is among the composers using Kyma for whatever we're calling
"contemporary classical music" these days. I think there are some videos of
him demonstrating it, and there are certainly recordings of his
compositions. I remember a performance of a drumset and Kyma piece of his
that had almost ridiculously low latency – the drummer improvises and the
Kyma responds VERY fast.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Jesse Mejia <jmejia at anestheticaudio.com>
wrote:

> I don't have experience with Kyma but have always been curious. I assume
> there are some nice proprietary algos that are what you're paying for (like
> buying lexicon or eventide hardware) - along with a presumably nice ui. The
> dsp hardware specs of those types of effects are often unpublished - but
> they also have a fixed and limited feature set so the hardware only has to
> be good enough to pull that off.
>
> I'd be curious to hear if there are some specific algorithms that Kyma
> users love / keep returning to etc. I teach at an institution that was
> recently considering purchasing one - my advice so far had been against it
> considering that they've already invested in max - but maybe it's more akin
> to buying a way more flexible eventide harmonizer etc?
>
> It would also be cool to see pd patches that attempt to replicate beloved
> Kyma routines.
>
> -Jesse
>
> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Marco Matteo Markidis <mm.markidis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> honestly I never used Kyma. Anyway, I realized a port to Pd of a
> composition of Agostino Di Scipio born in Kyma. Apart all technical and
> aesthetic problems due to the different implementation, my opinion is that,
> in this specific case, Pd can perform all tasks with no CPU problem and
> with a reasonable sound quality.
>
> So maybe Kyma was excellent at the 2000's beginning, when laptops were not
> so powerful.
>
> These are my two cents :)
>
> See you guys,
>
> Marco
>
> 2016-08-22 6:09 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi, any of you guys into Kyma? So many questions about this thing I've
>> never seen...
>>
>>
>> It's quite expensive and I wonder where the buck goes to... software
>> design? User experience? Whatever it is, it doesn't seem its dedicated
>> hardware justifies even half the cost... c'mon, 3k for what kinds of
>> processors? They won't even tell what kind of processors they are... the
>> lack of transparency is such that the only specs of the processor is
>> measured in "capstones" whatever that is...
>>
>>
>> Ok, it might be the best thing since cheese, but they don't put any real
>> effort in selling with actual numbers/data... which raises so many
>> questions...
>>
>>
>> since there's nothing else apparently today that has dedicated hardware
>> for audio, I can only imagine that a dedicated hardware makes sense for a
>> little less latency, which is also not a big deal these days...
>>
>>
>> A dedicated low latency hardware like 'Bela' (less than 0.5ms) is much
>> cheaper, does the price of kyma reflect a corresponding power in relation
>> to its cost difference?
>>
>>
>> So it seems the price is more about the convenience, the user experience
>> and the software...
>>
>>
>> now, since I'm here, what can it do that pd can't? Or any other plugin /
>> computer music tool out there, IRCAM stuff icluded... Csound, Supercollider
>> et all?
>>
>>
>> thanks
>>
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