[PD] RME Fireface 802 problem (aka problem with PA and Jack on OS X)

[Marco Matteo Markidis]

Dear all,

two months ago I reported this problem about problem turning on DSP on OS X
with PortAudio and Jack (with Jack Pilot). The last week I had a gig and I
get the same problem. The configuration was: start RME Fireface 802 and
then start Pd, turn on DSP, get this problem. After a reboot, I obtain the
same problem, but turn on RME, start Pd, restart RME, DSP manages to start.

So I would like to report this problem with this sound card. With RME
Fireface 800 I never get this problem, only with 802.

Setup:
-) RME Fireface 802 (Firewire 800 connection)
-) Mac early 2011 with Yosemite
-) Pd 64 bit (compiled by myself)

Best,

Marco

2016-06-14 16:08 GMT+02:00 Marco Matteo Markidis <mm.markidis at gmail.com>:

> so what was the error message?
>
> I start Jack from JackPilot on OS X, and Jack fails to start, not Pd fails
> to connect to Jack.
>
>> so when using Pd with jackd:
>> - start jackd (e.g. using qjackctl)
>> - then start Pd
>
> Yes I did it properly.
>
>> it seems like you are using the "PA" acronym for different things.
>> Pd has a PortAudio backend (s_audio_pa.c), but afaik this does not
>> involve any service/daemon/programm which could be refered to with "and
>> magically PA starts".
>
> Mmm no. With PA I mean PortAudio exclusively. When I started Pd it froze
> and looking at system monitor it stops at pa_send_dacs at some cerror
> function call (maybe some pthread init, but I not remember properly).
> Just to be clear: I started Pd with -pa flag but when I switch on the DSP
> Pd froze and on system monitor I saw that Pd was locked at some error.
> With Jack, Jack didn't start directly.
>
> So, what I'm saying is that can be an idea put a red Pd error con parent
> window in order that the user can understand that it is a PA error and not
> a Pd error.
>
> My solution was to reboot and everything worked properly, in this sense
> "PA magically starts".
>
> Marco
>
>
> 2016-06-14 14:58 GMT+02:00 IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>:
>
>> On 2016-06-14 12:57, Marco Matteo Markidis wrote:
>> > Dear list,
>> >
>> > Sunday I had a gig in Poland. After connect all cables, mixer and sound
>> > card I started my Pd patch without problems. When I switched on the DSP
>> Pd
>> > frozen and I didn't understand really what happens. After a while, I
>> > started the system monitor and I saw that in calling PA it stops with an
>> > error. I tried to start also Pd with Jack and in this case Jack didn't
>> > start properly giving me an visible error message.
>> > So I rebooted and magically PA starts.
>> >
>> > I'm sending you this email just to say that can be a good idea in this
>> case
>> > to report an error message very visible on Pd parent or something like
>> > this, in order to understand that it is a PA error and probably an
>> error to
>> > access to sound card or something like this.
>> >
>> > I'm sorry to cannot report a complete log message, but I remember that
>> Pd
>> > stops at pa_send_dacs function in s_audio_pa.c file. I hope you can
>> > understand that in a real live situation with Wayne Horvitz waiting that
>> > you finish your soundcheck it's not a proper occasion to get log message
>> > file and stuff like this.
>>
>> it seems like you are using the "PA" acronym for different things.
>> Pd has a PortAudio backend (s_audio_pa.c), but afaik this does not
>> involve any service/daemon/programm which could be refered to with "and
>> magically PA starts".
>>
>> there is PulseAudio on linux, which can be used via the PortAudio
>> backend, but afaiu you are on osx so i don't think that this applies.
>>
>> >
>> > Best regards and sorry if this mail can be off topic.
>> >
>>
>> i don't think it is off-topic, but probably more interesting for pd-list
>> (rather than pd-dev), as it is no more development-specific than any
>> other bug and more people could share there experiences.
>>
>> therefore i'm answering via pd-list...
>>
>>
>> fgasmdr
>> IOhannes
>>
>>
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