[PD] Fw: Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released

Alexandre Torres Porres porres at gmail.com
Thu Dec 7 17:57:20 CET 2017

2017-12-07 12:04 GMT-02:00 Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at>:

> Now when I think of it, when I switched from Pd-extended to Pd vanilla a
> couple of years ago I was first annoyed by the bigger font size. So it's
> really just a matter of getting used to it. Just one question: on Windows
> (and also Linux?) the font weight defaults to bold (as opposed to Pd
> extended). Is this on purpose and is this the same on MacOS?

It is not the same at all on macOS! And this has also been a matter of
dicussion here on the list. That is if we should get them all consistently
the same. But before we deal with that, it was necessary to do this part of
the process anyway. So after this we can make a decision on that.

I'm arguing we should have them all with normal weight instead of bold by
default. Because it'd be consistent also with Pd Extended and Purr Data. I
find bold specially hard on the eyes when checking documentation and help
files. I remember there were different points of view, as always, but not
that much or strong rejection to making it normal weight. But anyway, this
should be a new discussion with as much people involved as possible for the
next release.


 wouldn't t is not on purpose, I'd say this happened

> Anyway, thanks for the great work!!!
> > If everyone ends up hating this, we could just go back to Courier on all
> platforms. At least then we wouldn't have to ship a font....
> or what about Comic Sans MS? :-p
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 07. Dezember 2017 um 14:40 Uhr
> *Von:* "Dan Wilcox" <danomatika at gmail.com>
> *An:* "Lucas Cordiviola" <lucarda27 at hotmail.com>, "Christof Ressi" <
> christof.ressi at gmx.at>
> *Cc:* Pd-List <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> *Betreff:* Re: [PD] Fw: Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released
> Yes, the sizes are a little smaller/tighter and come from Pd-extended.
> Things work best with DejaVu Sans Mono so rendering should be the same
> using the same font. For more info, see: https://github.com/pure-
> data/pure-data/pull/159
> If everyone ends up hating this, we could just go back to Courier on all
> platforms. At least then we wouldn't have to ship a font....
> Note: DejaVu Sans Mono is the default font but it's not currently shipped
> with or loaded by Pd on Windows yet. There is some extra work needed for
> this and it seemed important to fix the sizing issues on macOS first. I
> wrote up some info about the fonts in https://github.com/pure-
> data/pure-data/blob/master/font/README.txt
> Also, zooming now works for all guis, the inlets & outlets are the same
> height, lots of little drawing bugs were fixed (VU scale not completly
> hidden), etc etc etc.
> On Dec 5, 2017, at 7:35 PM, pd-list-request at lists.iem.at wrote:
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 18:14:59 +0000
> From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27 at hotmail.com>
> To: "pd-list at lists.iem.at" <pd-list at lists.iem.at>, Christof Ressi
> <christof.ressi at gmx.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Fw: Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version
> released
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> Hi Christof,
> Yes this changes were totally intentional, and are for good IMO, now
> patches render the same on all platforms!.
> They were well tested, see: https://github.com/pure-
> data/pure-data/pull/227
> : - )
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