[PD] Order of operation/connection issue with send and return

Mario Buoninfante mario.buoninfante at gmail.com
Wed Jul 11 08:10:28 CEST 2018

Hi Matt,

yap, I got your point guys, and as I said I never rely on this kind of
things (that's why [trigger] extists ;) ), so we're on the same page here.
but I would disagree with the "there is no point in trying to understand
how it works" part. I think it's important to be aware of the tool. for
example, the way I came across this is while I was debugging a big patch. I
think that knowing about this "order of operation" thing would have helped
me understanding what's going on (because there's a rule behind it, that of
course like you said could change in the future - risky thing changing this
kind of things in my view - but it's matter of fact now is there) . at the
end of the day I found the issue in my patch, but almost certainly would
have taken me less time if I knew this.


On 10 July 2018 at 21:05, Matt Davey <hard.off at gmail.com> wrote:

> iohannes’ point was that even if there is a ‘rule’, you should not depend
> on it, and it may change in the future, so basically there is no rule.
> Don’t depend on that always working.
> There is no point in trying to understand how it works.  Just assume it’s
> random.
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, mario buoninfante <mario.buoninfante at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi I0hannes,
>> thanks for your reply. you're definitely right, in fact that's how I
>> wrote my patch, I probably kept my question to vague. it's not a problem, I
>> can see several workarounds for that, so it's fine, it's more about better
>> understanding what's going on under the hood. I always use [t] to be sure
>> that the oder of operation is correct, but I also know that there's a
>> "rule" about the order of connection. so my question would be, is there any
>> rule behind the [send] and [return] behavior?
>> cheers,
>> Mario
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