[PD] Slider/Knob

Sat Sep 8 01:11:08 CEST 2018

D'oh.. well, as i said, the floating iolet never bothered me after all :-)

> Gesendet: Samstag, 08. September 2018 um 00:13 Uhr
> Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <antoine at metalu.net>
> An: "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi at gmx.at>
> Cc: Pd-list <Pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> Betreff: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PD] Slider/Knob
>
> too bad, newclick(...) is never called when in edit mode...
> so: no hovering detection when in edit mode, no way to (easily) detect edit
> mode on/off switching... back to the starting point.
> maybe i will... do nothing more ;-)
> 
> Antoine Rousseau
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> 
> 
> 
> Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 20:33, Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at> a
> écrit :
> 
> > cool!
> >
> > > why not even showing outline and iolets as soon as the patch is switched
> > to edit mode?
> >
> > the only type of object inside the canvas which gets notified on editmode
> > changes is T_TEXT (to toggle the vertical line on the right), so AFAICT
> > it's impossible to achieve without nasty tricks (see iemguts/receivecanvas
> > :-))
> >
> >
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 19:39 Uhr
> > Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <antoine at metalu.net>
> > An: "Antoine at metalu.net" <antoine at metalu.net>
> > Cc: "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi at gmx.at>, Pd-list <
> > Pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> > Betreff: Re: Re: Re: [PD] Slider/Knob
> >
> > OK I just tried and mknob_newclick allows receiving hovering as you said
> > before.
> >
> >
> > Antoine Rousseau
> >   http://www.metalu.net[http://metalu.net] __
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> >
> >
> > Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 19:32, Antoine Rousseau <antoine at metalu.net[mailto:
> > antoine at metalu.net]> a écrit :
> >
> > I see; why not even showing outline and iolets as soon as the patch is
> > switched to edit mode?
> > But I must admit I don't know how to detect these events (object is
> > hovered /or/ patch switches to /from edit mode). I'll try to find existing
> > similar code, but maybe you have some pointers?
> >
> >
> > Antoine Rousseau
> >   http://www.metalu.net[http://metalu.net] __
> > http://www.metaluachahuter.com/[http://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/]
> >
> >
> > Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 19:20, Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at
> > [mailto:christof.ressi at gmx.at]> a écrit :> you mean like the little
> > square of the canvas object?
> >
> > kind of, except that my_canvas only shows the square when the object is
> > selected. of course that's also possible! my idea was to show it when you
> > hover the object in editmode, so you don't have to explicitly select the
> > object to see where to make the connections.
> >
> >
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 18:43 Uhr
> > Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <antoine at metalu.net[mailto:antoine at metalu.net]>
> > An: "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi at gmx.at[mailto:christof.ressi at gmx.at]>
> > Cc: Pd-list <Pd-list at lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list at lists.iem.at]>
> > Betreff: Re: Re: [PD] Slider/Knob
> >
> > a visual hint (i.e. draw the rect borders and the iolets)- but only when
> > the user hovers over the knob while the glist is in editmode
> >
> > you mean like the little square of the canvas object? yes, I like the
> > idea. I'll try this soon, thanks!
> >
> >
> > Antoine Rousseau
> >   http://www.metalu.net[http://www.metalu.net][http://metalu.net[
> > http://metalu.net]] __
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> > <http://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5D>
> >
> >
> > Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 17:31, Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at
> > [mailto:christof.ressi at gmx.at][mailto:christof.ressi at gmx.at[mailto:
> > christof.ressi at gmx.at]]> a écrit :Hi, to be honest, I never found it to
> > be a big problem. I'm not too sure about the three outlet solution, I think
> > it's indeed a bit far-stretched :-) what I would suggest is to give the
> > user a visual hint (i.e. draw the rect borders and the iolets)- but only
> > when the user hovers over the knob while the glist is in editmode. you can
> > do this in mknob_newclick.
> >
> > > iolets are floating in an empty space near the knob;
> >
> > yes, this looks a bit funny, but you usually won't have the cables visible
> > in your final GUI anyway, so I wouldn't worry about that.
> >
> > Christof
> >
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 14:45 Uhr
> > Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <antoine at metalu.net[mailto:antoine at metalu.net
> > ][mailto:antoine at metalu.net[mailto:antoine at metalu.net]]>
> > An: "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi at gmx.at[mailto:christof.ressi at gmx.at
> > ][mailto:christof.ressi at gmx.at[mailto:christof.ressi at gmx.at]]>
> > Cc: Pd-list <Pd-list at lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list at lists.iem.at][mailto:
> > Pd-list at lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list at lists.iem.at]]>
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] Slider/Knob
> >
> > Thanks for recommending mknob ;-)
> >
> > I'd like to do an update of moonlib soon, as it has received some
> > improvements: sfread2~ understands a new [index( message (thx to Antoine
> > Villeret), and mknob now better supports zooming.
> >
> >
> > About the latter, I'd like to hear your opinion (you all mknob users...)
> > about the following problem (and the solution I propose):
> >
> > mknob poses a particular problem: because its circular shape doesn't
> > comply to Pd graphical paradigm (every other objects are rectangular
> > shaped), iolets are floating in an empty space near the knob; because it's
> > visually ugly, and I don't want to surround the knob with a rectangular
> > box, I chose not to draw the iolets, even when the mknob is not bounded to
> > receive/send symbols. The problem (for explicitly connected  knobs) is now
> > that it's somewhat tricky to guess where you have to draw the connection
> > to/from, and that the wire connects to/from nowhere. This is acceptable for
> > small knob, but when it becomes bigger it's really weird.
> >
> > So the only idea I see (apart from hacking Pd sources...) is to setup 3
> > inlets and 3 outlets, so that you can connect from/to the one in the
> > middle; the wire is then actually connected to the circle. I succeeded to
> > code this behaviour, keeping to possibility to use any inlet and sending to
> > the three outlets. It's maybe a little far-fetched, but its works. What do
> > you think of it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Antoine Rousseau
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> > <http://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5D%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5D%5D>
> >
> >
> > Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 13:05, Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at
> > [mailto:christof.ressi at gmx.at][mailto:christof.ressi at gmx.at[mailto:
> > christof.ressi at gmx.at]][mailto:christof.ressi at gmx.at[mailto:
> > christof.ressi at gmx.at][mailto:christof.ressi at gmx.at[mailto:
> > christof.ressi at gmx.at]]]> a écrit :I recommend mknob from moonlib, but
> > make sure you get the latest version from deken for pd >= 0.47
> >
> > Christof
> >
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 12:59 Uhr
> > > Von: Clemens <reinklang at online.de[mailto:reinklang at online.de][mailto:
> > reinklang at online.de[mailto:reinklang at online.de]][mailto:
> > reinklang at online.de[mailto:reinklang at online.de][mailto:reinklang at online.de
> > [mailto:reinklang at online.de]]]>
> > > An: Pd-list at lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list at lists.iem.at][mailto:
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> > > Betreff: [PD] Slider/Knob
> > >
> > > Hello List,
> > >
> > > I would like to use knobs instead of sliders,
> > >
> > > where can I find them?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Clemens
> > >
> > >
> > >
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