[PD] German translation of Pd

[Christof Ressi]

> meaning (= translation)

reading the translations "Schieberegler" or "Arbeitsfläche" doesn't tell a new user anything about the meaning. they might get a vague idea but the full "meaning" of those terms only emerges when they create the corresponding object and interact with it. then they can associate the object with the corresponding word in the menu. which word you use, however, is more or less arbitrary ("Hslider", "Vslider", "Hradio" and "Vradio" aren't even real English words). now wouldn't it be nice if everybody would use the same words for those things which are specific to Pd?

I agree that this approach doesn't work so well with languages which don't have the same writings system (like English and Chinese) but I can't imagine that those German translations in the Put menu are of any use to a German Pd user. Seriously, how is something like "Vertikaler Schieberegler" any better than "Vslider"?

but maybe I should stop complaining now and simply continue with my practice of immediately deleting the "po" folder in my Pd installations :-)

Christof
 

> Gesendet: Samstag, 10. November 2018 um 18:43 Uhr
> Von: "Jurgen Frenz" <noise.now at gmail.com>
> An: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> Betreff: Re: [PD] German translation of Pd
>
> Allow me to insist on my bracket [in Klammern] suggestion - the fact 
> that the menus AND help patches are not localised in any other language 
> than English makes it vital to have both a rendering of the meaning (= 
> translation) and a reference to the original keyword.
> I have been teaching Pd in China and Malaysia and I am fully aware of 
> the extreme value of a translation of the text body.
> 
> Best
> Jürgen
> 
> On 10-Nov-18 15:55, Max wrote:
> > I disagree. Translations are made for people who aren't already 
> > polyglot. As Winfried said, let's strive to make the translations 
> > better. The suggestion Jurgen Frenz made is sensible though: 
> > translating it and put the original name in brackets.
> >
> >
> > On 10.11.18 01:34, Peter P. wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I had started this thread because of the terrible situation where you
> >> are teaching Pd to people, who have different language settings. It
> >> artificially confuses everyone involved without any gain. Everything
> >> that is in the "Put" menu should be uniform across all languages and
> >> match the terminology in the help patches. The same applies for other
> >> terms such as "patch" etc.
> >>
> >> This is really important and reduces the cognitive load of people new to
> >> Pd and learning it.
> >>
> >> best, P
> >>
> >>
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