[PD] Scrolllbar/dropdown list. Was: : Fixed: menubutton bug ...

[Ingo]

Fantastic!
I'll check it tomorrow and report back.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Jan Kraan [mailto:fjkraan at xs4all.nl]
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 9:23 PM
> To: Ingo; pd-list at lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: Scrolllbar/dropdown list. Was: : [PD] Fixed: menubutton bug ...
>
> Hi Ingo,
>
> Version 0.2.4 will be available from deken tomorrow (you can fetch it now
> from https://puredata.info/Members/fjkraan/software/tof/0.2.4/).
>
> The proper way is set the maximum length first and only then fill the list. 
> The
> menu will be "interesting" if you mix the add and max_column_height
> messages.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Fred Jan
>
> > Fred,
> >
> > it would be really fantastic if you could look into fixing pmenu.  :-)
> >
> > I'm constantly trying to avoid large dropdown menus - even though I
> > need them - because no object that I know of can handle it properly.
> >
> > Ingo
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Fred Jan Kraan [mailto:fjkraan at xs4all.nl]
> >> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 5:46 PM
> >> To: Ingo; pd-list at lists.iem.at
> >> Subject: Re: Scrolllbar/dropdown list. Was: : [PD] Fixed: menubutton bug
> ...
> >>
> >> Hi Ingo,
> >>
> >> Indeed a scrollbar on a dropdown-menu wouldn't be very good GUI
> >> design practice.
> >>
> >> The pmenu should be easier to adapt. I guess the original intention
> >> to have it start a new column every 30th item, but that doesn't work.
> >> I could try to fix this and make the max-column-length an option.
> >> Maybe even keep the current behaviour if no max-column-length is
> >> specified to keep backward compatible. It might be someone depends on
> >> it.
> >>
> >> BTW, the COLUMNBREAK = 30 is in pmenu_w.h.
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> Fred Jan
> >>
> >>> Hi Fred,
> >>>
> >>> no scrollbar please ! ! !
> >>>
> >>> But on Windows I do at least have the possibility to scroll down if
> >>> not all values are shown.
> >>> On Linux that's not possible. I can fit 56 entries on my full HD
> >>> screen and the rest is not accessible at all.
> >>> I suspect that this is part of the operating system ...
> >>>
> >>> So, dividing the menu into several rows - if needed - would look
> >>> like the best way to do it.
> >>> [tof/pmenu] does this but unfortunately the first column is limited
> >>> to
> >>> 30 entries and the number of columns seems to be limited to 2.
> >>>
> >>> Looks like [tof/pmenu] would be easier to change to do what I need
> >>> by extending the number of entries per row and columns.
> >>> Being able to set a maximum amount of rows per column would be
> >>> perfect with up to 4 or 5 rows.
> >>>
> >>> I had downloaded the source code before but since I'm no good at
> >>> these things I couldn't manage to change it.
> >>>
> >>> Ingo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Fred Jan Kraan [mailto:fjkraan at xs4all.nl]
> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 1:40 PM
> >>>> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> >>>> Cc: ingo at miamiwave.com
> >>>> Subject: Scrolllbar/dropdown list. Was: : [PD] Fixed: menubutton bug 
> >>>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Ingo,
> >>>>
> >>>> A lot is possible, as Tk commands are created and executed. But do
> >>>> I understand correctly, you want a menu-dropdown list with a
> scrollbar?
> >>>> Your application is probably not a menu, but I would think
> >>>> selecting from a
> >>>> 128 or 256 items-list would call for a different GUI solution.
> >>>>
> >>>> But I can look into it to see what is possible with Tk. Don't hold
> >>>> your breath and make sure to look for alternative solutions (like
> >>>> jmmmp/cellblock?).
> >>>>
> >>>> Greetings,
> >>>>
> >>>> Fred Jan
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Fred,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [tof/menubutton] is a great extarnal !
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One thing that's on my wishlist which would be the ability to use
> >> columns.
> >>>>> I need sometimes menus with more items that fit onto a single HDMI
> >>>>> screen like
> >>>>> 128 MIDI program names or menus with up to 256 items.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Would it be possible to add columns to fit all items onto one
> >>>>> screen without having to scroll?
> >>>>> In order to work best it should either be settable how many rows
> >>>>> are in one column or it should be set automatically according to
> >>>>> the screen size.
> >>>>> Right now I'm getting 61 rows on Windows, if I remember correctly
> >>>>> I got 60 (?) on Debian.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At least on my Windows mashine that I used for testing I could not
> >>>>> scroll with my mouse wheel.
> >>>>> Not sure atm if it works on Linux where I usually need to use it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>> Ingo
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces at lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of
> >>>>> Fred Jan Kraan
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 9:52 AM
> >>>>> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> >>>>> Subject: [PD] Fixed: menubutton bug ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi List,
> >>>>> A new version of tof, 0.2.3 is available which fixes this bug,
> >>>>> caused by my code-cleanup in 0.2.2. It is available for all the
> >>>>> usual platforms. Thanks to Oliver for finding and reporting the bug.
> >>>>> Greetings,
> >>>>> Fred Jan
> >>>>> On 12/09/2020 03.09, oliver wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> i just discovered a bug in the [menubutton] object of the TOF
> >>>>> library, in version 0.2.2
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> if you send a float to the [menubutton] object to recall an item
> >>>>> by index (or also if you just want to "set" it with a float), it
> >>>>> is always interpreted as 0, no matter what the sent number was.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> on the other hand, symbols work, also with the "set" method.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> this bug wasn't there in TOF version 0.2.1, i checked it on PD
> >>>>> 0.48 through
> >>>>> 0.51 (both 32 and 64 bit versions)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> best
> >>>>>
> >>>>> oliver
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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