> > if you can use externals you can send [wm geometry .pdwindow +400+200( > to [hcs/sys_gui] (where 400 is x-pixels and 200 is y-pixels) > thanks, yeah ! that's the one i was looking for ! for completeness: [wm geometry .pdwindow 200x500+400+200( | [hcs/sys_gui] to change size and position: [Width_x]x[Height_y]+[Pos_x]+[Pos_y] best oliver