[PD] MIDI / STATUS_BYTE / noteOn - noteOff mesage

[Peter Brinkmann]

There's a new controller that uses Note Off velocity in an interesting way
--- the Artinoise re.corder <https://www.recorderinstruments.com/en/> sends
Note Off with nonzero velocity between slurred notes.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 9:30 AM Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi, the ELSE library has [else/note.in] and [else/note.out] which can
> handle proper note off messages. There's an object in cyclone (and also in
> MAX, of course) that can do that too, called [cyclone/xnotein] and
> [cyclone/xnoteout].
>
> The use case of this is very rare as modern controllers don't really send
> note off messages anymore. I bought an old controller from the 80s that can
> do this, cause I'm a nerd and gear slut.
>
> Note Off messages start with channel messages from 128 to 143 (128 being
> channel 1 up to 143 being channel 16) as Dan's test patch points out. You
> can use raw midi input from vanilla to listen to this and get the next two
> values which are MIDI note and release velocity.
>
> I would also like this to be available in vanilla, but, hey, well, there
> are the mentioned externals already and this is quite rare as I pointed
> out. If you need to do it as a pure vanilla application for whatever
> reason, you can create such abstraction with [midiin].
>
> cheers
>
> Em qui., 29 de set. de 2022 às 19:19, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Pd treats noteoff as a noteon with 0 velocity, hence the [stripnote]
>> object, etc.
>>
>> If you want to explicitly handle noteoff, you can look at the midi tester
>> patch for working with raw bytes...
>>
>> 1. Help -> Browser...
>> 2. Pure Data / 7.stuff / tools / miditester.pd
>> 3. receive [pd channel messages]
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2022, at 9:56 PM, pd-list-request at lists.iem.at wrote:
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 17:42:15 +0200
>> From: Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>
>> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
>> Subject: Re: [PD] MIDI / STATUS_BYTE / noteOn - noteOff mesage
>> Message-ID: <b3832427-9b6d-ea0e-3d34-82245176e5ba at gmail.com>
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>> Hi,
>>
>> On 26/09/2022 20:43, Maurin Donneaud wrote:
>>
>> Dear List
>>
>> Looking at the MIDI 1.0 documentation :
>>
>> https://www.midi.org/specifications-old/item/table-2-expanded-messages-list-status-bytes
>>
>> I notice that the MIDI NOTES are transmitted over three bytes
>> ??? byte 1 -> STATUS_BYTE [chan & function]
>> ??? byte 2 -> DATA_BYTE [note] (0-127)
>> ??? byte 3 -> DATA_BYTE [velocity] (0-127)
>>
>> I'm wandering if Pd have a simple object to extract the noteOn / noteOff
>> message from the STATUS_BYTE.
>>
>>
>> I think you should be able with [midiin].
>>
>> Note that as per MIDI spec, 'note off' can be either an explicit 'note
>> off' message also containing a 'release velocity' value or (more common)
>> a note on with velocity equal to zero (for example this is how Pd does a
>> note on/off if you use the [makenote] object.
>>
>> Lorenzo
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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