[PD] updated hid object?

[Lucas Cordiviola]

> Maybe having [hid] run at the same time has something to do with it?

I can confirm that I can not use [hid] and [hidraw]. Pd just crash on 
Debian11.

You should start a fresh Pd (sudo pd) and only open "hidraw-help.pd"



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On 27/05/2023 05:19, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
>
> Note that [hidraw] from deken needs Debian Buster or higher. Also note 
> that you need permissions to access hids. You can start Pd with 
> superpowers to access HIDs (sudo pd). Also note that on Windows you 
> can not access "mouses" or "keyboards" (OS restrictions).
>
> > Maybe having [hid] run at the same time has something to do with it?
>
> could be. No idea about the crashes. It works ok for me on Debian11 
> and Win11(here testing with a gamepad)
>
>
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> On 27/05/2023 04:30, Ingo wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately [hidraw] doesn’t output anything for me at all on two 
>> computers (Debian & Windows 10) on either outlet.
>>
>> After listing the devices (manually each time!) the only action that 
>> I can get from it is crashing Pd.
>>
>> I tried both [open $1 ( with the “devicenumber”and [open-vidpid “n” “n”(.
>>
>> No output at all – even if I knew the same number was working 
>> perfectly with [hid].
>>
>> (I did close the device number before opening a new one each time. It 
>> didn’t make a difference closing all devices on hid.)
>>
>> On each search that I made with [open $1( my software / computer crashed.
>>
>> With [open-vidpid “n” “n”( there were no crashes but also nothing 
>> else happened.
>>
>> I guess I’ll stick with [hid] that is working and does not crash my 
>> Pd or entire operating system.
>>
>> The only downside of [hid] is that vid / pid or devife type (like 
>> mouse) doesn’t work.
>>
>> But it isn’t working on [hidraw] either and the latter doesn’t even 
>> exist.
>>
>> I’m not sure if it has anything to do with my configuration but from 
>> what I see I don’t see any reason for prefering [hidraw] over [hid].
>>
>> So wasting one day is enough for me to see that there is definitely 
>> no advantage in my case.
>>
>> Maybe having [hid] run at the same time has something to do with it?
>>
>> Maybe others will have more luck than I had . . .
>>
>> Ingo
>>
>> *Von:*Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27 at hotmail.com>
>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 14:48
>> *An:* Ingo <ingo at miamiwave.com>; pd-list at lists.iem.at
>> *Betreff:* Re: AW: [PD] updated hid object?
>>
>> @Ingo this simple patch tracks the buttons for my mouse. In my case 
>> the buttons are encoded in the first byte.
>>
>> see attached.
>>
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>> On 26/05/2023 08:41, Ingo wrote:
>>
>>     Thanks, Lucas!
>>
>>     I just downloaded and will test now.
>>
>>     Ingo
>>
>>     *Von:*Pd-list <pd-list-bounces at lists.iem.at>
>>     <mailto:pd-list-bounces at lists.iem.at> *Im Auftrag von *Lucas
>>     Cordiviola
>>     *Gesendet:* Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 04:46
>>     *An:* pd-list at lists.iem.at
>>     *Betreff:* Re: [PD] updated hid object?
>>
>>     Hi Ingo,
>>
>>     You can try https://deken.puredata.info/library/hidraw
>>
>>     You can open a device via its VID PID. From the help patch:
>>
>>
>>     "open device via VID PID (shown in the console if you did
>>     "listdevices"). Note that the VID PID is hard-coded in the device
>>     and this can be used (later) without a prior "listdevices" message."
>>
>>
>>     The help patch also includes links to the web on how to set HID
>>     permissions.
>>
>>     You can connect
>>
>>     [hidraw]
>>     |
>>     [print]
>>
>>     to see which bytes (in the list) change when you press the mouse
>>     buttons.
>>
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>>
>>     On 25/05/2023 14:07, Ingo wrote:
>>
>>         Hi there,
>>
>>         I’m having trouble with using my mouse with the relatively
>>         old [hid] (from 2004) on my Debian with Pd 0.49.0.
>>
>>         The main problem is that  “open by device type” is not
>>         working and I have to search the device number each time.
>>
>>         I have some automated method for searching but it still takes
>>         up too much time when restarting frequently.
>>
>>         Once I have the device number it works very well well, though!
>>
>>         (I need 6-8 different mouse buttons . . . )
>>
>>         I remember seeing something a while ago about either a new or
>>         updated alternative [hid] object.
>>
>>         However, I’m not sure what it was and I don’t remember if
>>         this was even for Linux at all.
>>
>>         Making a quick search didn’t give me any results.
>>
>>         Can anyone enlighten me if there is something working more
>>         reliably with finding the  mouse without havin to search
>>         manually each time?
>>
>>         Thanks
>>
>>         Ingo
>>
>>
>>
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