[PD] Calling for Pd Windows installer tests.

Linux ROUEN Normandie linux.rouen at free.fr
Wed Aug 9 10:08:13 CEST 2023


Hello Christof,

These last tests were made to question what Lucarda was pointing out:
/"In your case we know that pd.exe or pd.com (these are the ones we 
filter via tasklist.exe) refuses to open because is blacklisted by the 
OS so detection is not working as expected (for your case, of course)."/

As during these tests Avast was totally disabled, none of pd.com, pd.exe 
and/or pd.dll could be backlisted, the same for the system.
In add prior disabling my AV, I have checked Avast quarantine and 
nothing about any pd.*, the same for the system.

Current thinking:
The setup of my PC is not compatible with the modifications/adds 
introduced into pd.dll 0.54.0.
I will now test the GDB-Pd[*] app workaround suggested by Lucarda.

Note: I'm also waiting for the next release of Plugdata based on Pd 
0.54.0 to see if the issue is the same or not.
The test with Purr Data 2.19.3, which is working well, is not relevant 
as it's still using Pd 0.48.0.

--------------------
Best, Joseph
--------------------

Le 09/08/2023 à 02:53, Christof Ressi a écrit :
> Hi Joseph,
>
>> 3. Pd 0.54.0 without installation, but its 'pd.dll' replaced with the 
>> one from 0.53.2, with 'pd.com' ran directly from 
>> H:\JOE-W10\Donwloads\pd-0.54-0-modified\bin.
>>      NOW, it's launching Okay.
>
> on Windows, pd.dll actually contains all the code and pd.exe/pd.com 
> are just tiny shims, so your result is not too surprising.
>
> Christof
> = = = = = = = = = =
> On 08.08.2023 19:43, Linux ROUEN wrote:
>> Hello Lucarda,
>> Thanks for your suggestions. I will test them later on.
>>
>> But I think we are not searching in the right direction, at least for 
>> my PC setup.
>> So I have made further investigations.
>>
>> I think the culprit on my PC could be the new 'pd.dll' file 
>> introduced in Pd v.0.54.0.
>> See the attached zip file containing 3 screen captures highlighting 
>> what I'm saying:
>> 1. Pd 0.53.2 without installation with 'pd.com' ran directly from 
>> H:\JOE-W10\Donwloads\pd-0.53-2\bin.
>>      It's launching Okay.
>> 2. Pd 0.54.0 without installation with 'pd.com' ran directly from 
>> H:\JOE-W10\Donwloads\pd-0.54-0\bin.
>>      It's NOT launching at all, just 1 or 2 seconds but nothing on 
>> the screen, as during all my previous tests.
>> 3. Pd 0.54.0 without installation, but its 'pd.dll' replaced with the 
>> one from 0.53.2, with 'pd.com' ran directly from 
>> H:\JOE-W10\Donwloads\pd-0.54-0-modified\bin.
>>      NOW, it's launching Okay.
>>
>> What do you think about that?
>> Best, Joseph
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces at lists.iem.at] De la part de 
>> Lucas Cordiviola
>> Envoyé : mardi 8 août 2023 14:44
>> À : pd-list at lists.iem.at
>> Objet : Re: [PD] Calling for Pd Windows installer tests.
>>
>> Hi Joseph,
>>
>> I'm following your case and it's the cause for having a "safer"
>> installer for good.
>>
>> In your case we know that pd.exe or pd.com (these are the ones we filter
>> via tasklist.exe) refuses to open because is blacklisted by the OS so
>> detection is not working as expected (for your case, of course).
>>
>>> Is it safe in my case to run your 'Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe' to
>>> see if I can get Pd 0.54.0 finally working on my PC ?
>> You could try it but I expect it won't work because all files, are taken
>> from Miller's builds and pd.exe, pd.com and pd.dll are the exact same
>> ones you got blacklisted.
>>
>> But if you desperately need 0.54-0 you can use the installer new tool
>> and do this pseudo install:
>>
>> IIRC you could run the GDB-Pd[*] app you got from
>> https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/eKrTbHE4iyqAgAg
>> - uncompress the folder somewhere in your machine
>> - run the test installer
>>     - get into: "Repair Pd(64) defaults to open .pd files and exit"
>>       - select the main folder of your extracted GDB-Pd[*]
>>         - voilà: now .pd files opens with that Pd which is rather the
>> same you get with the app installed. Note that you don't have any start
>> menu, desktop short-cut, and other stuff so to start the app you only
>> need to double-click on any .pd file. (and yes, with this tool all
>> subsequent double-clicks on .pd files opens in the same Pd instance)
>>
>> [*] this app contains a 32bit tcl/tk. AFAICT the only thing that does
>> not work is the dnd-plugin.
>>
>> Lucarda
>> -- 
>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>> = = = = = = = = = =
>> On 08/08/2023 08:41, Linux ROUEN wrote:
>>> Hello Lucarda,
>>>
>>> My PC is running under Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 22H2 (build 
>>> 19045.3208), and yes it has tasklist.exe v.10.0.19041.1. as of 
>>> 2019/07/12.
>>> Unfortunately I still can't run Pd Vanilla 0.54.0 since I tried to 
>>> update it about one month ago. See my previous emails on this subject.
>>>
>>> * All the following tests are done with my Avast antivirus totally 
>>> disabled.
>>>
>>> 1. While Pd is running, run the installer 
>>> 'Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe'
>>> - Trying to run Pd but nothing on the screen, only Wish Application 
>>> is running in the background.
>>> - Now running Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe, at the 4th window 
>>> there are 3 choices:
>>>     . Continue (normal installation)
>>>     . Clear Pd preferences and exit
>>>     . Repair Pd(64) defaults to open .pd files and exit
>>>     I choose Continue
>>> - On the 5th screen I get:
>>>     . Run the uninstaller (recommended)
>>>     . Install as an alternate app
>>>     . Continue
>>>     I choose Cancel
>>> I reboot my PC under Windows.
>>>
>>> 2. Pd is not running, run the installer 
>>> 'Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe'
>>> - I checked than neither Wisk nor Pd are running, which is the case.
>>> - Now running Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe at the 4th window 
>>> there are 3 choices (same as in above 1.):
>>>     . Continue (normal installation)
>>>     . Clear Pd preferences and exit
>>>     . Repair Pd(64) defaults to open .pd files and exit
>>>     I choose Continue
>>> - On the 5th screen I get (same as in above 1.):
>>>     . Run the uninstaller (recommended)
>>>     . Install as an alternate app
>>>     . Continue
>>>     I choose Cancel
>>>
>>> QUESTION:
>>> Is it safe in my case to run your 'Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe' 
>>> to see if I can get Pd 0.54.0 finally working on my PC ?
>>>
>>> Thanks. Best,
>>> Joseph Gastelais
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