[Pdweb] puredata.info/.org

Mon Oct 30 21:29:08 CET 2006

On Oct 30, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Winfried Ritsch wrote:

> Hello,
>
>>  From my experience with Drupal, my guess is that it would take 40
>> hours of work to get the setup working better.  Basically there are
>> far too many options right now.  It should be greatly simplified so
>> that you don't have to learn all the details of Plone in order to do
>> anything with the site.
>>
> The problem is migrating the content not
> doing another site will need lots of hours.

I wasn't suggesting replacing plone, just estimating how long it  
would take to fix up the current plone site.

> On the other site we can simplify plone just get rid of the publish- 
> workflow
> and so pending state and reviewer role, just manager and members and
> anonymous, like a big wiki.

Sounds like a start.  And maybe removing a couple of the content  
types that aren't used.  That would go a long way.

.hc

>
> My offer to a web-designer is:
>
> if she/he just thinks a little bit of what is needed on the site
> and make a design proposal as plain (x)html (maybe just use the  
> plone standard
> css-download as a starting point) I could try to give my best to
> implement the skin in plone, as file based product, so in future
> everybody can hack on it.
>
> Please think as of slots in the surface to design and fill.
> Maybe its a good idea somebody who has no plone experience
> make the design so it doenst look like all other plone sites.

> mfg winfried

>
>> That's my two bits.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Winfried Ritsch wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am back on list, so maybe its time to introduce me,
>>> it was my silly idea to use Plone/Zope since some years,
>>> since I used it in an elaerning archive project http://iaem.at/
>>> and now was busy to update this site to new version, also it was my
>>> silly idea
>>> to do an pd-list this is now 10 years ago.
>>>
>>> Anyhow Plone/Zope can be made simple or complicated,
>>> there are nice documents about skinning:
>>>
>>> http://plone.org/documentation/tutorial/creating-custom-style
>>>
>>> even the whole docu-engine http://plone.org/documentation
>>> with doing FAQs, Tutorials, HowTos and Glossary  could be used
>>> on purdata site, since only needed to be installed, but
>>>
>>> Who does the content work oder reviewing of content ?
>>>
>>> There are also Forum Products, but anyhow, each item (entry) can be
>>> commented like in an forum on the site.
>>>
>>> Georg Holzmann is just finishing a streaming product for plone,
>>> so audio and videos can be stored file-based and streamed.
>>>
>>> another thing is we have ca. 300GB from pd-convention lectures,  
>>> audios
>>> lying on the server, but not usable since nobody did a authoring
>>> work for
>>> this.
>>>
>>> The main resource we need is man power doing the work. The idea
>>> using plone was that deligating of sections etc on the site is easy,
>>> also a lot of sites use it so it is quite secure.
>>>
>>> So please just write on the Wiki http://puredata.org/dev/pd_webwiki/
>>> FrontPage
>>> your suggestion. I hope I can help realizing this issues in the
>>> near future,
>>> since anyway we have to update the site to Plone2.5 soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> mfg winfried ritsch
>>>
>>> Am Dienstag, 24. Oktober 2006 19:04 schrieb Adrian:
>>>> I am sorry IOhannes, i gave up upon serious "text" conversations in
>>>> the net after finding out that i'm to conflict scared ... there is
>>>> nothing better then a real voice and a face.
>>>>
>>>> yeah i looked after plone as well, and that made me scared!
>>>>
>>>> On 10/24/06, Kyle Klipowicz <kyleklip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I looked up Zope after that mail and got the joke:  Plone is
>>>>> based on
>>>>> Zope.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Kyle
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/24/06, IOhannes m zmoelnig < zmoelnig at iem.at> wrote:
>>>>>> Adrian:
>>>>>> i think hans just wanted to point out, that you should answer to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> list instead of a single person, especially if the recipient of
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> email is not the interrogator. (you were answering one of my
>>>>>> statements
>>>>>> in a private email to hans)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Adrian wrote:
>>>>>>>> IOhannes: is it necessary to know zope/bash in order to  
>>>>>>>> rearange
>>>>>>>> plone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oh no, not again: this was a joke, or choke.
>>>>>> you don't need to know bash nor zope nor plone (though the
>>>>>> latter ought
>>>>>> to help)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mfg.asdr
>>>>>> IOhannes
>>>>>>
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