[Pdweb] front page text (was: rename "download Pd" to "Downloads")

Wed Nov 28 20:20:59 CET 2012

Cool, thanks for the help!
Framapad is nice but I have to tell I'm not very self-confident with the
French interface... not intimidated though :)
I've made a new revision, based on these thoughts:
- "Starting from a blank page" is needless to say, and it doesn't always
apply
- "You" sounds a bit ad-like, let's substitute the target groups right here
- Let's try to make up the sentence without parentheses
- Let's omit the parts which are not essential ("e.g. "all over the world")
- Added a few uses (sorry MIDI is my sweetheart)

I'm not sure about the "Pd is suitable for..." sentence, especially the
expression "production-safe"... Let's talk about it.

András

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Nicolas Montgermont <
nicolas_montgermont at yahoo.fr> wrote:

>  If you don't mind, I've switched to framapad that doesn't need any
> account to edit:
> http://lite.framapad.org/p/HtIWJQZv7m
> and started to rewrite the first paragraph:
> *
> Pure Data* (aka Pd) is an open source visual programming language used
> for multimedia processing. Starting from a blank page, you graphically
> create your own software to design realtime multimedia creation (sound,
> video, 3D), physical interfacing (sensors, 3D camera, joystick), motor
> control, network communications or any other data computing. Pd is widely
> used all over the world by a community of people coming from different
> fields: musicians, visual artist, researchers, developers, performers,
> spectacle technicians...
>
> I think it lacks an ending...
> let's finish it together!
> n
>
> Le 20/11/12 19:41, Marco Donnarumma a écrit :
>
> great Andràs, thanks.
>
> I agree with HC, we should be more radical, and focus the first paragraph
> on a very simple and concise statement on what Pd does, and who is
> interested in using it (see processing and max example posted by HC).
>
> - what it does (sound, image, www, for installation, performances,
> concerts, interactive scenery, etc... let's use some keywords here)
> - who find it useful (artist, programmers, musicians, video artist, dance
> company, hardware makers because it's so portable)
> - where to get it (your paragraph looks very good to me)
> - who did it and why
>
> that should be more than enough...
> my 2cents!
>
> cheers,
>
> --
> Marco Donnarumma
> New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
> Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team.
> Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com
> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>wrote:
>
>>
>>  That's steps in the right direction, for sure.  I think you should take
>> a more radical approach: start writing things from scratch, then use the
>> old one as a source for some text here and there.
>>
>>  The current text does a terrible job of explaining to total newbies
>> what Pd is and why they might be interested.  The Processing blurb is
>> decent:
>>
>>  "Processing is an open source programming language and environment for
>> people who want to create images, animations, and interactions. Initially
>> developed to serve as a software sketchbook and to teach fundamentals of
>> computer programming within a visual context, Processing also has evolved
>> into a tool for generating finished professional work. Today, there are
>> tens of thousands of students, artists, designers, researchers, and
>> hobbyists who use Processing for learning, prototyping, and production."
>> http://processing.org/
>>
>>
>>  Max/MSP is worth looking at too:
>>
>>  "For over twenty years, Max has been used by performers, artists, and
>> composers to make cutting-edge work by connecting basic functional blocks
>> together into unique applications. Max gives you the parts to make your own
>> music, sound, video, and interactive media applications. Simply add objects
>> to a visual canvas and connect them together to make noise, experiment, and
>> play." http://cycling74.com/products/max/
>>
>>
>>  .hc
>>
>>   On Nov 17, 2012, at 2:21 PM, András Murányi wrote:
>>
>>   Sirs,
>>
>> I've made a proposal, please take a look and comment:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VrM68BbNvi0VrPaLv3__C_wvNgxd5KK2Pp3Ci_1V17s/edit
>> (comments are enabled, editing is disabled, please start a new doc for
>> eventual revisions)
>>
>> András
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Nicolas Montgermont <
>> nicolas_montgermont at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>  We had a discussion in march about the home text:
>>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pdweb/2012-03/000843.html
>>> it stopped too early :)
>>> This may be a base to start
>>> n
>>>
>>>
>>>    ------------------------------
>>> *De :* Marco Donnarumma <devel at thesaddj.com>
>>> *À :* András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc :* "pdweb at iem.at Web" <pdweb at iem.at>
>>> *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 11 novembre 2012 16h56
>>> *Objet :* Re: [Pdweb] rename "download Pd" to "Downloads"
>>>
>>> good idea, yes, maybe send us your content, this list has way less
>>> members than the others,
>>> so we can edit collaboratively/agree on things quite fast.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marco Donnarumma
>>> New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
>>> Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team.
>>> Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
>>> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com
>>> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:34 PM, András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> Now I'd just enrich the intro text on the main page with some direct
>>> links (for RJDJ, LibPd and whatever is mentioned there) and I think a tiny
>>> bit of clarification is missing about Vanilla (currently mentioned as "The
>>> Core of Pd) and extended (not mentioned at all). If there are no
>>> objections, I'll commit directly to the page, otherwise I'll post a revised
>>> version here first.
>>>
>>> András
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Marco Donnarumma <devel at thesaddj.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> yea, nice..
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marco Donnarumma
>>> New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
>>> Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team.
>>> Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
>>> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com
>>> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:28 PM, András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:18 PM, András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Marco Donnarumma <devel at thesaddj.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> if I remember correctly, adding something to a page might be tricky (at
>>> least with this version of Plone, the only I know).
>>> I will look into it, although I don't have much time at the moment, so
>>> anybody who wants to chip in before me is welcome :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me into the Zope Management Interface and I'll try to tame the old
>>> beast.
>>>
>>> András
>>>
>>>
>>>  Oh! Just noticed the fresh changes. The links on the top of the right
>>> column are cooler then I thought (ie both links are there), bravo!
>>> As for the menu, I'd suggest "Downloads" instead of "Download" then.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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