[PD-dev] fink package

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Tue Feb 21 02:09:52 CET 2006

On Feb 20, 2006, at 10:10 AM, james tittle wrote:

> hey all,
> On Feb 20, 2006, at 12:34 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> On Feb 19, 2006, at 10:36 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>> The Pd-extended build system is generalized enough that it should be
>>>> relatively straightforward to do this.  The biggest thing to do  
>>>> would
>>>> probably be making X11 a build option for Pd on Mac OS X, probably  
>>>> using
>>>> a ./configure flag (--disable-aqua?)
>>> Wouldn't that instead be by reordering the priority of the INCLUDE  
>>> dirs?
>>> depends on whether it's e.g. -ltcl -ltk in both TkAqua and TkX11, or
>>> whether the options are different, e.g. -framework Tcl -framework Tk  
>>> in
>>> one and -l in the other. If the options are the same then it should  
>>> be
>>> just a matter of priority. But then the things from Fink either have  
>>> to be
>>> bundled with pd (static linking or other) or else everyone must run  
>>> Fink,
>>> right?
>> A fink package would use fink dependencies, just like a Debian  
>> packages uses Debian dependencies.  Its a bigger problem than just  
>> which Tcl/Tk libs to compile against since in the source, #ifdef  
>> __APPLE__ and #ifdef MACOSX assume Tcl/Tk Aqua.
> ...I've actually had versions before that worked in X11 (while a/b  
> testing tcl/tk aqua changes), so it's not a really big deal, but a bit  
> bigger than just changing the linkage...the "hidden" problem to be  
> addressed is that I had switched from using the tcl/tk.framework's to  
> using fink's x11 tcl/tk, so it wound up using pd-gui like on  
> linux...this works fine for a command line version of pd-x11, which is  
> likely what a fink package would be...but we can probably do better  
> still ;-)

I am fine having a command-line only Fink version.  It could then  
easily go-exist with a Pd.app.

> ...recent versions of the tcl/tk.framework's actually include both  
> aqua AND x11 versions, so it's feasible to retain the app package of  
> pd-extended, but have it auto-launch x11 when needed (like gimp or  
> inkscape on osx)...this'll require some work, but will definitely be a  
> help while getting aqua tcl/tk up to snuff...

This would be nice in the long run, even have it as a preference  
whether to launch with X11 or Aqua.  But then this would not need to be  
distributed thru fink, but rather just a .dmg Apple-style download.



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