[PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Tue Sep 26 22:19:02 CEST 2006


Using loading order will have similar problems whether you use the  
first loaded or the last loaded.  And changing the order of  
precedence will have lots of unintended consequences.

Modern programming languages use namespaces (C++, Python, Java,  
SmallTalk, etc).  Namespaces are a much more appropriate and proven  
way to deal with this issue.  Its already working in Pd on a basic  
level, and most of what's needed for a full-fledged namespace system  
is already implemented.

.hc

On Sep 26, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:

> Yes indeed.  I'm thinking of automatically having new classes  
> shadow old ones,
> so that anything in Pd could simpy be "externed" over.  Not sure of  
> all the
> long-term ramifications, but I like the idea.
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 08:30:44AM +0000, carmen wrote:
>>> and that is the question: why do we necessarily need the fftw  
>>> based fft-objects in plain pd and cannot use externals?
>>
>>> so the only drawback is see is: the objects are called [fftw~]  
>>> instead of [fft~]; but lo and behold, i vaguely remembered  
>>> krzysztof magic in cyclone, where a newly
>>> loaded class raises itself over an already existing class. while  
>>> he is using it to overwrite objects from other externals (e.g.  
>>> iemmatrix's [matrix~]), i don't see any
>>> reason why this should not work with internals.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> et voila, does this not sound good?
>>
>> sounds good. maybe there should be some official policy on the  
>> overloading of internals?
>>
>>>
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