[PD-dev] pd-devel revival

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Sun Dec 7 19:48:12 CET 2008

Yay!  Its my hope that we can build upon efforts like pd-devel and  
desiredata.  Standing on the shoulders of giants kind of thing.

I would like to contribute to a community fork that aims to be Pd  
compatible, but really focuses on decentralizing as much as possible,  
by structuring things around a very small core and everything else as  
libraries.  I don't think we need a leader, I think we need to  
organize the code as a mirror of the community, which is quite  

What does this mean for working on the core?   I think we need to  
have clear delegation of sections of the core, I think we need to  
have regular meetings.  I think that people can head up sections that  
they are most interested in, and we need to figure out how to create  
the sections.  I think that per-file is probably the easiest way.  I  
think it is also good to start slowly and figure out to make this  
work.  Those are some of my opinions on the matter, I hope to hear  

Chun's and my Pd hacking experience is largely with the GUI, and it  
could be much better, so that's where we have been talking about  
starting.  But really, I hope that many people get involved in areas  
that they are most interested in contributing.


On Dec 7, 2008, at 11:32 AM, chun at goto10.org wrote:

> Hi all:
> Hope you are all well:)
> Some of us have been toying with the idea of working on the gui code
> (u_main.tk/pd.tk only, leaving the C code untouched) of Pd for a  
> little
> while now. Starting with refactoring it and gradually adds new  
> stuff in,
> and hopefully the changes will work its way to pd-vanilla.
> For this reason, we would like to revive the good old pd-devel as the
> working branch. as it would seem fitting to do so instead of making  
> a new
> branch with a new name.
> So i guess this mail will act as the announcement for this new  
> effort, as
> well as a discussion starter for many of us who would like to talk  
> about
> the surrounding issues. and perhaps we could also revive the semi  
> regular
> dev meetings we had on #dataflow too;)
> cheers
> chun
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