[PD] PD Launcher/External Manager

[bbogart at ryerson.ca]

Hello Hans-Christoph,

I think the first version will assume external binaries have already been extracted/built.

The packaging thing makes me a little nervous because I was hoping the system would be a single tcl script that would run on all platforms. Only problem is the availibility of different packaging systems (tgz, dpkg, zip etcc) and dealing with them from inside the launcher.

Cotributions would be great, how are/were you envisioning the project?

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
Date: Friday, May 16, 2003 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: [PD] PD Launcher/External Manager

> 
> This is a great idea, something I was planning on working on this 
> summer.  I'd like to contribute if possible.  Perhaps we can put 
> it in 
> the CVS and collaborate.
> 
> As for distributing the externals, I think rather than building 
> our own 
> distribution system, we should use what's out there for each OS.  
> Debian and RedHat have very nice existing methods, and the 
> externals in 
> the SourceForge CVS can be compiled into a set of Debian packages 
> right 
> now.  They just need to be submitted to the Debian and/or DeMuDi 
> repository.  It shouldn't be too hard to add RedHat/PlanetCCRMA to 
> that, but currently Nando at CCRMA does that outside of the CVS.
> 
> For Windows and OS X, if we make installer packages for the same 
> sets 
> of externals as the Debian packages, that will greatly simplify 
> things. 
>  But the biggest thing that would improve the situation would be 
> to 
> have all of the externals in the CVS.  Then they would be included 
> in 
> the existing packages, or if necessary, they can be made into 
> their own 
> package.
> 
> Think of it this way: if we had all of the externals that didn't 
> have 
> lib dependencies in the CVS, they could all be included in the 
> main 
> externals package in the CVS and they would all be installed with 
> that 
> package.  The key omissions that I can think of off the top of my 
> head 
> are the collections of Olaf Matthes, Krzysztof Czaja, Thomas 
> Musil, 
> Dave Sabine, and Yves Degoyon; there are others as well, who's 
> objects 
> are an important addition to anyone's pd install, and I hope that 
> anyone who writes externals for pd will contribute them to the CVS.
> 
> So to encourage others to join the CVS, I am going to configure 
> access 
> control lists in the CVS so that devs who choose to can restrict 
> write 
> access to their code in the CVS.  I am also willing to upload 
> people's 
> code and help with setting up CVS access.
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 13:00 America/New_York, 
> bbogart at ryerson.ca 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > If someone wanted to upload built versions of the stable 
> externals in 
> > CVS, as tgz and zip files, for all platforms to a ftp server, 
> then 
> > that would be a LOT easier for the tool to do. (download and 
> extract, 
> > but then you depend on extraction tools, whats the average size 
> of the 
> > externals? (for all platforms?)
> >
> > I'm thinking the double pane idea would work better from a 
> usability 
> > standpoint, opinions?
> >
> > B.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marc Lavallée <odradek at videotron.ca>
> > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:51 am
> > Subject: Re: [PD] PD Launcher/External Manager
> >
> >> David McCallum wrote :
> >>> My Pd launcher's no more than a custom DOS .bat file that let's
> >>> you turn Framestein and ASIO drivers on/off at runtime.
> >>
> >> I use the same technique in Linux with a shell script.
> >>
> >>> And as a windows user I have to ask this, how cross-platform are
> >>> you intending this to be?
> >>
> >> Tcl/Tk. The launcher would list the externals with their 
> descriptions,>> and checkboxes would activate them. If an internet 
> source is
> >> provided it
> >> would first download and install the externals. Isn't there a 
> Windows>> mechanism to install softwares from the network?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Marc
> >>
> >> "L'homme n'est pas fait pour travailler, la preuve c'est que 
> cela le
> >> fatigue." (Voltaire)
> >>
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