[PD] logo or icon?? (my opinion)

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Wed Oct 22 23:34:57 CEST 2003

On Wednesday, Oct 22, 2003, at 17:16 America/New_York, nick phillips  

> just an idea -- i wonder if it might be best to post the potential  
> logos
> on pure-data.org minus the descriptions/reasoning? not to say the
> reasons aren't important -- i've found the discussion fascinating so  
> far
> -- but in the end, i imagine that a newcomer to PD will judge the logo,
> and therefore in part PD itself, on purely aesthetic grounds, and won't
> be much interested in the logical reasoning behind it. perhaps it might
> be best to also judge the icon based on purely aesthetic interests  
> also?

I tried a bit to get a page of just all of the images, but I couldn't  
get plone to do it.  Maybe someone else can figure out how to do it.   
You could always do it manually... ug...

> i suppose i'd like to err on the side of a logo whose look itself best
> expressed the idea of PD, otherwise we may end up with a logo that  
> looks
> aesthetically "off" but whose reasoning is sound (i'm thinking here of
> the awful C74 logo in particular)...

I totally agree.


> again, just an idea -- feel free to explain to me why i'm wrong!
> best,
> nick
>> As I somehow started this thread, I want to throw in some thoughts  
>> too.
>> First, instead of sending logos to the mailing lists, we should
>> really collect them on the pure-data side (I still use pine, and its
>> not setup to view images !).
>> Then as it is a contest, I think it does not make too much sense
>> to make restrictions. If someone thinks it can only be black and
>> white and one should see the pixels ... ok.
>> People can submit the logos together with their reasoning why they  
>> made it
>> this way and why it is the best of all, the only thing that we would  
>> have
>> to do at end somehow together is to agree on one ...
>> I think the best way is that some one (hc ?) makes an official like
>> description how to submit the logos (deadline in two weeks or so),
>> then we make preselections and go together through the decision  
>> process.
>> It would be nice if the outcome would be other artwork too, like
>> pd-backgrounds, pd-shirts, pd-mugs, pd-underwear, etc aso ..
>> Guenter
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Andre Schmidt wrote:
>>> don't quite understand why i should create a pixel editor with pd to  
>>> get the same result as with an "icon editor" program ???
>>> -andre
>>> Marc Lavalle wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:43:39AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I think we are talking about a logo from which icons will be made.  
>>>>>  I
>>>>> think the yin/yang came up because it looks like the letters Pd,  
>>>>> but I
>>>>> agree, I don't see a strong connection to Pd.  I personally think  
>>>>> that
>>>>> the icon should be designed in Pd, since Pd is all about creating  
>>>>> media.
>>>> I agree. Since pd is "graphically challenged", the logos and icons  
>>>> should
>>>> be designed accordingly. Included is my pd icon, made with pd on  
>>>> Linux
>>>> (it's only 137 bytes). Earlier this summer, I installed the actual
>>>> pure-data.org logo, made by patrick at 11h11.com.
>>>> --
>>>> Marc
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