Hi, > Has anyone tried using the external, joystick.pd? If so would you be > so kind.. Here's a different approach to your problem: http://lillith.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/~kashima/games/bmconv/index-e.html Pics are very easily found and very cheap. Pic burners too. And this solution will work on every system with a midi interface. Hope it helps, Julien