[PD] getting started on OS X 10.2.8

kevin parks kp8 at mac.com
Wed Nov 26 08:07:19 CET 2003

I sort of got pd to work (you know Tcl/Tk, is often doesn't look like 
it is working even when it is *^-^* ) by biting the bullet and trying 
OSXPM, a tool which frightens me, to uninstall, by hand anything that 
looked or smelled like Tcl/tk or pd and installing from scratch.

I notice another disturbing thing. I am not sure if it is just tk 
acting like tk or if it is something specific to my install, but i 
notice that i can't open a patch, highlight something, cut it, and 
paste it into a new patch. Seems like a mind-numbingly basic operation. 
Is is that Tcl/Tk is crummy on OS X? Just crummy in general? or is pd 
still like in a deep beta release? I wasted way too much time messing 
with SuperCollider, a program whose massive power is matched in 
magnitude only by the ugliness of its syntax, the poverty of it's 
documentation, and the completeness of its backwards incompatibility. I 
want something that i can get some work done on. Life's short. I 
thought that i would give pd a try. Are folks successful (making 
pieces, performing) in working with pd on Mac OS X?

back to the manual..



On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, at 01:19  AM, kevin parks wrote:

> Hi,
> I downloaded the pre-built package from www.pure-data.org and ran the 
> installer. I let it install everything. I had Tcl/tk 8.4.4 already 
> installed, but let the installer overwrite that with 8.4.1 since the 
> site said that there pd "seems" to have trouble with 8.4.2 and 8.4.4. 
> I am not sure what that is about. I'd wouldn't mind knowing if it does 
> have trouble with it or not, "seems" is not a word one likes 
> associated with software. It is like i "seem" to be bleeding from my 
> head. Either you are or you ain't.... Anyhoo... Things are a mess. pd 
> launches the wish sell and gives you the other little box for IO or 
> whatever, but refuses to open any patches and when i try it just keeps 
> opening shells but not patch to run or edit.... I tried opening 
> through the menu but all my .pd files are greyed out.
> Someone please, i am begging, helping get this thing running, and 
> also, is it at all possible to use GEM on Mac OS X and how do you do 
> that?
> Any help would be appreciated
> -kevin--

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