[PD] earning a living coding Pd

[delire]

really i think this whole question is quite stupid. if you want to make money 
coding in PD or proce55ing or lisp or python then get a business card and try 
and meet people with intelligent haircuts. this is as much anyone's 
'business' as your favourite breakfast cereal. may a thousand golden cats 
smile at you.

as for the media arts funding, this is from where my (and many others on this 
list) primary income derives; grants, research funding and performances. 
however, the 'media market' you speak of is not centred around point of sale 
goods and rarely is it even software services. work (digital artifacts or 
softwares) are not bought and sold. instead an artist is paid to present or 
show in a given festival. 

put simply, if you want to get paid for coding in Pure Data then get funding 
for your favourite project, become a musician that people actually care 
about, or work for an institution that cares enough to pay for your ideas. 

like the good ol' days before the copyright FUD, recording artists made income 
not from record sales but from concerts. strangely the microeconomics of the 
'media arts scene' has been this way since it's conception.

less money is spent on software by media artists than painters on paint. this 
may be BS, if so prove it to me (& design companies don't count). typically 
artists themselves don't buy software, though often they will pay for a 
developer or consultant to assist in production.  

secondly the media artist is usually already the developer; making the 
software is part of creating the work itself. it's all part of the fun.

keep kool til after skool,

de/


On Friday 30 January 2004 22:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner said:
 ::  On Friday, Jan 30, 2004, at 10:45 America/New_York, delire wrote:
 ::  > On Thursday 29 January 2004 22:40, Hans-Christoph Steiner said:
 ::  >  ::  On Thursday, Jan 29, 2004, at 16:30 America/New_York, derek
 ::  >  :: holzer
 ::  >
 ::  >  As
 ::  >
 ::  >  ::  the market for media art and the like grows, I think this will
 ::  >
 ::  > only
 ::  >
 ::  >  ::  become more and more feasible.
 ::  >  ::
 ::  >  ::  .hc
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 ::  > Your search - "market for media art" - did not match any documents.
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 ::  > de/
 ::
 ::  Its not a market in the gallery/store sense so much, but I was just
 ::  working at the Lille2004 festival and there was millions of Euros being
 ::  spent on media art.  The whole festival budget is something like 100
 ::  million Euros.  Some of the individual art groups had budgets well over
 ::  100,000 Euros.  I think Graz03 spent more last year.  That's where the
 ::  market mostly is, grants, commissions, and festivals.
 ::
 ::  .hc
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