[PD] can't use Pd-extended externals
Thomas Ouellet Fredericks
iamonthebeach at gmail.com
Sat Apr 1 00:57:33 CEST 2006
Rich! You tried to load my .pdsettings (not compatible with pd-extended),
not Hans'.
Ascii is a library for converting numerical values into their ascii
equivalent. It was created by Marc Lavallée and should be included in
pd-extended/committed to cvs. Very usefull for serial communication.
Tom
On 3/31/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:52 AM, Rich E wrote:
>
> I tried Hans' .pdsettings and Pd tells me:
>
> em: can't load library
>
>
> Is the Gem with the Gem cut off?
>
> /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: libgslcblas.so.0: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
> pdp: can't load library
>
>
> You'll need to install libgslcblas.so.0 :
>
> apt-get install libgsl0
>
> gridflow: can't load library
>
>
> GridFlow is not in Pd-extended (yet?). GridFlow is not in the .pdsettings
> file that i generated. Perhaps you need to delete a ~/.pdrc?
>
> ascii: can't load library
>
>
> Neither is this, I don't know what that is. Its not in the .pdsettings I
> generated either.
>
>
> So, I took Tom's advice and added paths for all the subfolders in
> /usr/lib/pd/extra. Many more things work now, but about 1/4 of everything
> is missing still. There are all some object errors. Here are some of the
> most recent that I ran into in my day's exploration:
>
>
>
> ext13 - [cdplayer]
> load_object: Symbol "cdplayer_setup" not found
> cdplayer
> ... couldn't create
>
>
> Donno if anyone is maintaining that...
>
> vasp library missing, but help files are there
> [pool] and [OSC] not there. [Gem] too... but I think you have mentioned
> this isn't possible yet.
>
>
> On GNU/Linux, those aren't included yet. But I am working on finding
> people to help me get it included. I need help with getting flext and Gem
> building with Pd-extended. Any volunteers?
>
> On the positive side, the Pd Documentation Browser is really nice in 39.2.
> References and manuals are easy to find. On the negative side, right-click
> helps don't work, I probably have to add a -helppath flag for every
> subfolder in the pd/doc/5.reference folder. I'd like to help do what I can,
> but I think most of my problems are because I cannot load the 'libdirs' as
> your .pdsettings file does.
>
>
> The libdir thing will handle the helppaths.
>
>
> I hate to always ask questions about why things aren't working... but
> dernit, this program has a steap learning curve and I'm working on it. You
> guys do amazing work and I'm determined to get up to speed at the risk of
> being annoying.
>
>
> It does indeed, but I don't think anyone thinks this is a good thing. Its
> just a matter of doing the work to make things run smoothly. One thing you
> could do is document your process of trying to get things working. You can
> get a free site on puredata.org and make a wiki page there, or whatever.
>
> .hc
>
>
> Richie
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
> Date: Mar 30, 2006 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] can't use Pd-extended externals
> To: tom at danslchamp.org
> Cc: pd-list < pd-list at iem.at>
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:24 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
>
> At the end of this mail is an example of my .pdsettings
> My pd rests at /usr/lib/pd
> I use a Debian package of PD, and compile some stuff, but I pick in your
> compiled pd-extended externals often. Congratulations on the great job.
>
>
> Thanks, its actually the collected effort of many, many people. I guess I
> am the most visible since I most recently put a big chunk of work in.
>
> I do not understand your loading of folders as libs (like toxy, cyclone,
> hid, etc..). Is this a kind of hack so that Pd searches those folders for
> the external?
>
>
> Yeah, is a hack I call libdirs that I plan on developing further into a
> generic library format for objects written in any language, C, C++, Pd, C#,
> python, whatever. This would be in conjunction with Thomas' loader
> extension and things like the Common Language Runtime API for Pd that was
> recently announced.
>
> Here is some documentation about the idea and what's actually implemented:
>
> http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Libdir
>
> Once Pd goes up a version I will switch to you pd-extended and try to
> help.
>
>
> Excellent! The more, the merrier :)
>
>
> Tom
>
> .pdsettings contents follows:
>
>
> Cool, just what I needed to fix up the script. Try this .pdsettings file:
>
>
>
>
>
> .hc
>
>
> audioapi: 2
> noaudioin: False
> audioindev1: 0 2
> noaudioout: False
> audiooutdev1: 0 2
> audiobuf: 50
> rate: 44100
> nomidiin: True
> nomidiout: True
> path1: /usr/lib/pd/extra
> path2: /usr/lib/pd/extra/gridflow/pd_abstractions
> npath: 2
> standardpath: 1
> verbose: 0
> loadlib1: Gem
> loadlib2: pdp
> loadlib3: zexy
> loadlib4: gridflow
> loadlib5: ascii
> nloadlib: 5
> defeatrt: 0
> flags:
>
>
> On 3/30/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans at eds.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Or even better you could write a .pdsettings file that loads each lib/
> > libdir in Pd-extended and send it to me to include in future
> > packages. I already have such a file for Mac OS X and Windows, but I
> > haven't had a chance to make one for GNU/Linux.
> >
> > Here's the list of libs included in Pd-extended:
> >
> > Gem cyclone zexy cxc ext13 fftease hid iemabs iemmatrix liblist list-
> > abs mapping mar
> > kex maxlib memento mjlib motex oscx pddp pdogg pdp pidip pixeltango
> > pmpd rradical sigpack smlib toxy unauthorized vasp vbap xsample
> >
> > This script automatically generates the Mac OS X and Windows one:
> >
> > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/scripts/generate-pd-
> > settings-files.sh?rev=1.2&view=log
> >
> > Probably the best solution would be to add the code to make this
> > script also generate a .pd-settings file for GNU/Linux.
> >
> > .hc
> >
> > On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
> >
> > > You could dump all the externals that are in the subdirectories back
> > > into the extra directory or you could add all the subdirectory paths
> > > to your Path... submenu in PD.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > On 3/30/06, Rich E <reakinator at gmail.com > wrote:
> > >> Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working?
> > >> I have
> > >> both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem:
> > >> none of
> > >> the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the
> > >> externals in
> > >> pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are
> > >> not
> > >> locatable within Pd.
> > >>
> > >> Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any
> > >> libraries
> > >> that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for any help,
> > >> Richie
> > >>
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