[PD] apt get for abstractions

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Mon Mar 12 18:06:15 CET 2007


Yeah, that code could be turned into a library then used for the  
versioning for this Pd apt-get.  The other parts include a common  
library/package format (like finishing up libdir support) and a  
common repository format that's easy to setup.

.hc

On Mar 12, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:

> I haven't used Net-Pd that much, but doesn't it use a sort of system
> to keep patches up to date?
>
> ~Kyle
>
> On 3/12/07, Stephen Sinclair <radarsat1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> what if you could refer to abstractions using URLs?  a caching system
>> could take care of reducing the need to be connected at all times.
>> something like ZeroInstall for example.
>>
>> or perhaps using Java-style class paths, especially if URLs could be
>> included in the class path.
>>
>> would this lead to very long abstraction names? we could solve  
>> this by
>> providing an "alias" object, so that any abstractions mentioned in a
>> patch that are prepended by the given alias are replaced with the
>> alias' URL.  Then the "alias" could be used as the "base address" for
>> the abstraction names.
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On 3/11/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think this would be very useful.  It should be as easy to set  
>>> up as
>>> possible, some kind of minimal setup based on HTTP like basic apt- 
>>> get
>>> repositories.  Eclipse's repository format is worth checking out.
>>>
>>> I think we should build it in Pd for maximum portability and
>>> maintainability.  Pd programmers will always be able to write in Pd.
>>> But that's not always the case for C or other programming languages.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:28 PM, Alexandre Quessy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure,
>>>> But such a system should be as portable as Pd. Such a system  
>>>> should be
>>>> in C, I guess, for maximum portability.
>>>>
>>>> Like APT, I find the pear package system very nice too. It would be
>>>> very easy to adapt, but it is in PHP. It uses XML to store
>>>> informations about the files hierarchy.
>>>>
>>>> Marc Lavallée told me about a simple package system that would  
>>>> be easy
>>>> to adapt, but I forgot its name. Marc ?
>>>>
>>>> Such a topic might fit better in the pd-dev list.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2007/3/11, adam armfield <adamairmailed at yahoo.com>:
>>>>> following on from the ongoing debate about bundles for
>>>>> patches with many abstractions, I had the idea for an
>>>>> apt-get style system, where someone who wants a patch
>>>>> can enter a command & get all necessary abstractions
>>>>> at the same time...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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