[PD] About editing pdpedia

Thu Nov 29 06:24:16 CET 2007

Hans,

> The lists are built automatically by mediawiki from every page that has 
> [[Category:objectclass]] and [[Category:vanilla]] in it.

In this case, 'Category' and 'Object class' is replaced by the localized
term defined in the template.. I see the links in the Spanish page
functioning properly in this manner.

Combinations I've tried so far do not seem to work.

Am I the only one dealing with multi byte characters at this
site so far?
I am beginning to have a bad feeling about their behavior.

--
David Shimamoto

> 
> .hc
> 
> On Nov 28, 2007, at 12:12 PM, PSPunch wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hans,
>>
>>
>> Ok, I figure only the page names are copied.
>>
>> One last question if before I start adding text..
>>
>> I don't quite understand the mechanism behind pages such as,
>>
>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Category:objectclass
>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Category:vanilla
>>
>> Can you please tell me where the list of objects come from?
>>
>> -- 
>> David Shimamoto
>>
>>
>>
>>> Looks like you got the Infobox working now.  As for the English content,
>>> none of the previous people wanted to have the English content in their
>>> template import, so I didn't include it.  It's all available by clicking
>>> the "English" link on the lower left of each page.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2007, at 3:15 AM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hans,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> I am terribly sorry to bother you with this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To my eyes, the following two pages look almost identical.
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/MediaWiki:Common.css
>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/MediaWiki:Common.css
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Template:Infobox_Objectclass
>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/Template:Infobox_Objectclass
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> After you've kindly executed the import, I was imagining
>>>> that for example,
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/line
>>>> would be filled with English contents identical to
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/line
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unless I've done something wrong, I am imagining I've
>>>> translated terms I shouldn't have in the original template.
>>>> Say, for example, is 'Category:' parsed exceptionally for
>>>> specific actions? Then it shouldn't have been replaced
>>>> with multi byte characters of my language.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> David Shimamoto
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:03 AM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hans,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, it's running, it'll take an hour or two.  You can see the 
>>>>>>> pages as
>>>>>>> they are imported:
>>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/minimum
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the effort!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I see the log increasing as a reload the "recent changes" page.
>>>>>> Is it just me or is it general to get excited watching
>>>>>> massive data being crunched right in front of your very eyes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some pages I opened were just blank.
>>>>>> I wonder if this is because the original English page
>>>>>> is also blank... any way I will wait for the processing to end.
>>>>>
>>>>> There shouldn't be blank pages, but they will just be templates 
>>>>> with the
>>>>> infobox and the categories setup.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next, you need to add the CSS and Infobox template then the infobox
>>>>>>> stuff will show up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I feel I've already done this following the "admin HOW-TO".
>>>>>> If it gets over written, I guess I can just try again.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's still missing the CSS, that should be listed on the 
>>>>> HOWTO.
>>>>> That's why the Infobox isn't showing up.
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doh itashimashite  (that's one of my favorite words in japanese :D )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, domo-arigato-gozaimas!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2007, at 8:30 PM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hans,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most of the main page is taken from the documents kindly prepared
>>>>>>>> by Tetsuya Saito. The objectclass template page mainly has terms
>>>>>>>> unified with the main page. So for that part I feel comfortable to
>>>>>>>> proceed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate it if you can execute the import.
>>>>>>>> Thanks. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can execute the import whenever you're ready.  Maybe it would be
>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>> to have one more Japanese speaker look at the template?  It's 
>>>>>>>>> up to
>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:57 PM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hans,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> I've followed the procedure in the English 'Admin howtos' pages.
>>>>>>>>>> I would appreciate it if you could try executing the import.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 2:20 AM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have some questions for some of you working on pdpedia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> =======
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Has there already been discussions on policies regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>> when/which
>>>>>>>>>>>> pages to lock?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am assuming that leaving everything unlocked is the way to
>>>>>>>>>>>> go if
>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> the world were an ideal place. Are there not yet MediaWiki
>>>>>>>>>>>> spammers?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Locking pages is basically for when people are fighting over a
>>>>>>>>>>> page.  I
>>>>>>>>>>> can't imagine that anything is so divisive in Pd that we'd 
>>>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>> lock
>>>>>>>>>>> pages.  So far, we haven't had any spam yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> =======
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding importing data from other languages..
>>>>>>>>>>>> For some basic pages, I have gotten away with the following
>>>>>>>>>>>> procedure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I. Open the pdpedia page in English.
>>>>>>>>>>>> II. Enter "edit" mode and [copy] the contents in the form
>>>>>>>>>>>> III. Create an equivalent page in my language and [paste] the
>>>>>>>>>>>> material
>>>>>>>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>>>>>>> IV. Use above as a starting point to begin translation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The above does not work for pages such as 'Category:vanilla'.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't quite understand how that content is embedded in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can some one help me on importing the list of objects?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that people working on the Spanish and Portuguese
>>>>>>>>>>>> pages
>>>>>>>>>>>> have been successful in this.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Once that translated template that you posted is ready to go, 
>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>>>> run the import.  That will generate template pages for about 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2000
>>>>>>>>>>> objectclasses.  Then it's a matter of plugging in content, which
>>>>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>>>>> gathered from pages in other languages, help patches, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> one
>>>>> chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better
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